in trouble because vs trial. also, the national association elected appointed officials. talking about campaign 2020 24 and issuing -- washington journal is next. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2024] host: good morning. the house is back in session at noon eastern today. protests over the israel and hamas conflict have led to 100 -- hundreds of arrests over the past week. suggesting using the national

guard. this morning we're asking you, what role do you seek when it comes to college campus protests? republicans can call (202) 748-8001. democrats can call (202) 748-8000. independent collars can cal (202) 748-8002. if you want to text us, you can use (202) 748-8003. otherwise, you can catch up with us on social media. a very good monday morning to you. this is the headline. protesters faced police crackdowns across the u.s. at least 900 have been arrested

on college campuses in the past few days. it is the largest response to campus activism in years. this weekend on face the nation, it was mitch mcconnell who was asked about these protests and what kind of response the government has. here is what he had to say. [video clip] >> the first amendment is important, but it does not give you the ability to claim that there is a fire going on. because it threatens everybody else. what needs to happen at the beginning is that these university presidents need to get control of the situation. allow free speech and pushback against anti-semitism. i thought that was largely gone in this country. we have seen a number of young people who are actually anti-semitic.

why don't they sit down and have a civil conversation rather than try to dominate? >> so you would not go to the national guard at this point? >> they ought to be able to do that. civil discussion is what college education is supposed to be about. i would be interested in hearing the antisemitic people explaining the justification for that kind of talk. >> president biden says he condemns the antisemitic protests and condemns those who do not understand what is going on in palestine. do you agree with his statement? >> it is not a question of that. i can speak for myself. but i think is what i just said about how college campuses should be controlled by the administrations.

>> -- host: mitch mcconnell. that was yesterday. it was wednesday of last week when he and other leaders in the house were asked about those protesters peering some of them were yelling at the speaker and his fellow republicans, even as they were talking and had -- as they were talking. [video clip] >> there is executive authority to be appropriate. if these threats of intimidation are not stopped -- we need to bring order to these campuses. we cannot allow this to happen across the country. we are better than this. >> what is the house going to do? >> the house has been

investigating a number of these campuses. there is a net this of federal funding. if they cannot get control, they do not deserve taxpayer dollars. you have seen our education and workforce committee. we have brought the presidents of these university is to congress to testify under oath. there will be much more of that. we will continue to work on legislation on the federal level. this congress -- i believe there is bipartisan agreement on this. well stand for what is good and right. we are going to do what is right by america. we respect free speech. we respect diversity of ideas, but there is a way to do that in a lawful manner. host: speaker mike johnson of wednesday last week. he spoke about president biden.

the readout from the white house coming out last night. president biden spoke with benjamin netanyahu to confirm his ironclad commitment to israel's security following successful defense against the president drone and missile attack earlier this month. they have reviewed ongoing talks to secure the release of hostages with an immediate cease-fire in gaza. speaking of the biden administration, secretary of state and neely -- antony blinken is set to travel to the middle east for talks on a possible cease-fire. the world economic forum and then he will head on to israel and jordan. we're are asking you about the federal or state government's

response to these protests that have been happening over the past 10 days or so. more from over the weekend. we want to get your thoughts this morning. we do have that lying for students. we will go to that lying as often as folks call in on that line. joanne, you are up first. caller: good morning. i do not know why everybody is so surprised that the campuses have been taken over by these activists and protesters. over the years come the past few years on tv, all you hear about

our colleges coming to campuses and being shut out and not allowed to speak at these campuses. this is just a continuation of what the college administrators have been allowing to happen. unless they take that into consideration and stop not letting people enjoy their free speech and have discussions between the groups, it is going to continue. i hope that the administrators will try to get the students to allow free speech cap -- actually happen on their campus. host: go ahead. they should not have canceled the classes is what you are saying after caller: i --what you are saying? caller: i do not think they

should have canceled the classes or the graduations. they should keep the protests out of their. host: he mentioned the free speech issue. how much is free speech versus hate speech issues as far as what has been set at the rallies and the reason why administrators have gotten law-enforcement involved. what is your idea on free speech versus hate speech? caller: i think anybody spewing hate speech and death to jewish students and death to the united states should be considered hate speech and should be arrested. they campuses should disqualify those students from being there because i think free speech, when you come out like that, it is like shouting out fire in a

theater. host: losing you a little bit, but i think i got your point there. this from usa today, northeastern university over the weekend saying 100 people were detained late saturday night. those who produced a student id were released but will face disciplinary hearings. what began as a student demonstration was infiltrated by organizers with no affiliation. last night, the use of an anti-somatic slayer. video appeared to show counter protesters holding israeli flag.

that is the wrap up of what happened in just one of those. we are getting your thoughts on this demonstration. a special line for students and administrators. good morning. caller: good morning. how are you doing today? host: doing well. caller: i think they have the right to protest and free speech. there should be no violence or damage done to anything. there is a proper place for that. it seems to be all over the world, they are protesting against the jews. i have nothing against them myself. but that is at i think. host: this is sylvia in

virginia. caller: yes. thank you. if someone gets hurt on either side, i believe that is when the government should intervene. if they take away the newspeople, i think they should just gone back to class. what fuels it is when all the news, they know that they are on tv and it just feels more. host: little rock, arkansas. republican. caller: yes. i was wondering why the national guard might possibly be called out across america for this. the national guard is hardly ever used, or if it is used, it is on our southern border. the other thing i thought of was -- antifa is supposedly not

involved in any of these protests. i think the protesters are a lot from the left. i thought antifa was a left organization. it is strange that -- the other point i wanted to make is that i think george soros, when i read about his organization, they are having a lot to do with putting money behind the protests. i think a lot of this is just all staged and a lot of it is designed to further and in for not very good reasons. i think there are a small group of people who are wanting something to happen on a larger scale for a further agenda. thank you. host: more on the discussion of how to respond to protests on

college campuses. chris murphy being asked about it. [video clip] >> we should all speak out when protest crosses a line. but 95% of the young people on these campuses are there because they believe there is a fundamental injustice being perpetrated. we have also had a history of multi-day protest in this country. i do not think there is anything wrong with protecting peaceful protest. i am not criminally offended by the fact that some of these protests go on for multiple days. >> but the threat issue is a real issue. >> there have been legitimate

threats to students on campus. they can and should handle those threat. host: chris murphy on fox news sunday yesterday. this is martin in holland, michigan. caller: yes. all of these protesters should be clearly identified. make sure that the arrests stay on the record. also, keep on referring to this as protests. the way it is going on, it is really an insurrection. maybe congress should reestablish the january 6 committee and have liz cheney head it up. she has knowledge about insurrection, and it would be great for the country if she could get in there and really investigate who is behind the protests. but i doubt whether that will

happen. host: in mississippi. good morning. caller: what do i think about the protests on campus. i heard the name. kyle rittenhouse. what was he doing on college campuses? this is what they do and this is who they are. we do not have nothing. roe v. wade? i am sad. i am sad. host: kathleen in mississippi in terms of public figures showing up at some of these protests.

joe stein was among scores of protesters arrested over the weekend at washington university . st. louis had -- and one other story to point out this morning, this from the new york times. talking about the covid class of 2020 denied a normal chance. many had their senior year upended by covid in 2020. four years later, many of those same students have had their traditions foiled once again. the attempt to shut down the widespread protests. they say they are once again juggling a personal milestone with feelings of anxiety.

many of them say they are keeping their own inconveniences in perspective. they seem destined to never know a stereotypical senior year. for college students and administrators to college, you can call (202) 748-8003, if you want to call in this morning. line for democrats. good morning. caller: good morning. i feel, in general, any type of protest, more specifically, -- i feel like if they are abiding by the law and not causing any sort of disorderly conduct that does not abide by the protest -- that does not abide by the general legal manner to protest, then

there should not be involvement from any type of law enforcement. seen by the pro-palestinian protests -- that is what they are. they are in no way antisemitic protests. from the videos i have seen, the way that law enforcement has been handling these protests has been extremely inappropriate. i feel like unless there is some sort of evident, ongoing pope -- violence -- there should be none of the aggressiveness that i have seen from law enforcement. host: for free speech, the question of free speech and hate speech -- do some of these protests cross into hate speech? has that been a point at which these protests need to end?

caller: obviously saying free palestine is not antisemitic. people have said nasty things during protest. just, i do not feel like saying free palestine constitutes and stay semitic speech. even if it does, it is really not a cause to shut down protests. host: noting that there is no legal definition of hate speech under u.s. law, just like -- there are such things as hate crimes in this country but for the purpose of the fbi, they find it as a criminal offense in

whole or by part based on race, sexual orientation, gender or gender identity. it goes on from there. the difference between hate speech and hate crime. all of these ideas being debated on college campuses and being talked about across the country. hearing from you. this is edward, republican. in morning. caller: good morning from the free state of florida. troops should intervene. when i was in the military with the second infantry division and 82nd airborne. to quell that situation down there in 1962. we came down the streets.

they were rioters. they broke 22 of our windshields and our jeeps as we entered the campus. the federal troops are trained around the clock to handle these protests and riots. that is all i have to say about that. host: you said that was 1963? caller: yes. i was feeling very proud. it was down in fort benning's. we would deal with it in a military manner. that is what is needed now. thank you. host: it seems like such a unique experience. how many of those kinds of

protests were you involved in? how long did you do that? did you do it through the 1960's? plenty of protests in the 1960's. caller: we not only went to campuses to quell the riots, but we went to cities like birmingham. it was out of control. we were called in with the 82nd airborne and we quelled riots in a military manner. host: you keep using the term right. your -- is there a difference in what you are seeing now? does buying it involve property destruction or something like that? caller: once again, ryan is the destruction of property and harm

to the individuals. the situation now is, when you have palestinians, palestinian flags being raised in lieu of american flags, that goes from a protest to a riot. host: what are your feelings -- you are talking about free speech. free speech is protected by the first amendment. the protesters are practicing their first amendment right, whether it is this protest or what your experience was in the 1960's, how do you feel about how we use fee speech in this country? caller: free speech is being misused. in this situation, there is anti-semitic speech and a call for harm to the jewish students on campus.

when the jewish student on campus has to leave campus because they are not protected, they are being threatened, that is the fine line between free speech and complete anarchy. the situation on campus is now come up anarchy. host: thank you for calling and sharing your arians. we appreciate it. one of the stories i cannot find just now, but it mentioned that columbia university -- this has been the first time they have been called in to quell a protest since 1968. if you go to american history tv, c-span2, 24 hours. we aired a documentary from the protests at columbia university,

protesting the university connections the vietnam war and plans to build a new facility at one of the perks in the facility. you can watch that on american history tv. it is about what the protests were like at columbia university. independent, good morning. you are next. caller: good morning. i am all for the free speech. i deeply believe that there is absolutely a right to peacefully protest. i do not think it is to the extent of burning buildings down . i actually grew up in the 1960's. i remember those very well. i actually supported people they

call rioters. they were -- we were trying to stop the war. we thought it was unjust. host: everything that has happened so far with these protests -- would you call it orion? caller: -- call it a riot? caller: i do not think so. people trying to get the right to vote -- that is what they called riots back then. so do not let them cover that up. and i would like to also point out the hypocrisy going on with speaker johnson. he said he would like to see the army sent in.

this and that. he was part of the insurrection. at the capital on january 6, along with about 140 others. other congressmen. they sat down and it was a must three hours in the white house a few blocks away. they called the national guard in. he said it is an insurrection. they were waving confederate flags. i'm sorry, but i do not -- i am independent and i the both parties, but i pretty much had it with the republican party. especially the past several years. by that is putting much all i had to say. host: liz, new york city is very

you are? caller: yes. i am in brooklyn. what i have to say is the first amendment protects your right to free speech. donald trump, the wall of his heat from the podium every night he gets up and tells everybody how illegal aliens are racists and murderers. the second point that i wanted to make is that the protests are mostly people until the police move-in and start arresting people. and not gently. they do not look to clear the area in a peaceful way. they just move in and start

picking people off. i grew up in the 1960's as well. this reminds me of the riots in the 1960's, when black people were looking for the right to vote and when -- you know, kids were looking to stop the vietnam war. unfortunately, we are just divided. i do not know how we get out of it, but i do not think arresting kids for exercising their free speech rights is the right way to go about it. host: just to play devils advocate, should the encampment on university property in the middle of campus be allowed to stay as long as they want? given the access to bathrooms and facilities into university buildings? what is the limit of what

university should do for these kids he went to protest? caller: these are their students and they should be able to speak to their student. they should be able to talk to their students and negotiate with their students. they should not just be bringing in the police. i'm sorry. it is just -- it is bad luck. you think about it. think about what happened when we brought the national guard in. american kids died on that campus. some of them were not even part of the protest. you run the risk of making this much worse by joining in military police or the national guard. i just think that university

campuses need to be mindful. they should not be forced into action by a republican congress that speaks out of both sides of its mouth. mike johnson did not mind when the january 6 rioters, insurrectionists brought the confederate flag the capital. host: the washington times, noting that some of the students at columbia university divest the coalition that say that they represent thousands of the school's students. including divesting all of columbia's finances and endowments from companies and institutions that profit from academic ties and study abroad programs and fellowships,

research collaborations with institutions, among others, releasing a public statement calling for immediate cease-fire in gaza. and other demands were listed on the website. at least some of those protest groups are calling for that. we will continue with those conversations about what is going on, on college campuses. trump tried to hit the campaign trail, but he cannot escape from new york, the trail he is facing in new york over hush-money payments continuing today. just wanted to take some time to focus on the week ahead. we are going to be joined in just a minute or so by the legal news site. i believe -- frankie runyan, do

we have here? guest: you do. host: the week ahead in this week's trial calendar. we'll be on the witness stand? what will you be watching for? guest: it has been pretty interesting so far. we are through jury selection. david, we finished up with him as well. delving into the specific details agreement that he said he had with donald trump and how they were going to run all these negative stories about the primary opponents and how they obviously were going to silence any negative stories from anyone who might have come forward about extramarital affairs. that is where we have been, and riviera billing is not as clear because the prosecution has not wanted to share an official witness list for a specific

guide is surprised everyone. part of it has to do with donald trump's gag order. he has been lashing out at some of these witnesses before they have taken the stand. we do not know who will be taking stand this week, but you can sort of guess by the next witnesses that we have had. there was trump's longtime assistant. and then we moved onto a banker that helped to set up a bank account for michael cohen intel pay for the alleged hush money. what you are seeing is the prosecution putting someone on the sand who can tell the story.

now it looks like they are going to bolster that with as many document as possible. i believe, because they are trying to push back on the defense side, all of this mess on michael cohen. the prosecution has long said, we have the documents here. we are going to show this to the jury first. i cannot put if the future, but that is where we have been and i think where we are going. host: you mentioned the gag order outside of the trial self. on that gag order, is there more proceedings to come? guest: there are. donald trump is campaigning and continuing to post all kinds of messages on social media. it is hard to keep up with, if you have ever tried. basically, they have introduced

four more examples of ways that the state believes he has violated the gag order. now we are looking at 14 pending before the court. there has been argument on the first 10 and there will be argument on another four about midweek. but the judge has not been in a rush to make a ruling. violations of the gag order and what we are talking about is criminal intent. there is a binary choice. a fine up to $1000 or jail for up to 30 days. those ours -- are stark choices. an interesting position of how he wants to proceed or punish trump for these violations, if he decides that he did violate the gag order. host: how are you and your team

covering this trial in new york? guest: i cover it on a daily basis. we cover gavel-to-gavel, so we are there for the entire time, all the way through jury selection, to the bitter and. in the courtroom, every single day, donald trump walking by. not sure i've seen a smile yet on that man's face. not happy to be there, but we are happy to chronicle what is happening. and we are writing stories as they come. host: i like that gavel-to-gavel line. we'll chat to use that on c-span

. guest: we saw it in the civil fraud case. it is dangerous for a criminal defendant to stand in their own defense. they can be a whole manner of issues. it would not be is the pregnancy if donald trump made the -- unconventional twice. he is certainly weighing that possibility. five be it for me to predict what donald trump will do next, but i would not be surprised. host: a new york court reporter. thank you for the update on this monday morning. guest: thank you for having me. host: bacteria phone because in this question about federal and state governments, and what role

they should have, if any, in campus protests. we are asking you to call in. republicans can call (202) 748-8001. democrats can call (202) 748-8000. independents can call (202) 748-8002. administrators and faculty can call (202) 748-8003. david, thank you for waiting through the interview. what are your thoughts on the protest. caller: i am a veteran of the u.s. marine corps. i thought the second battle of fallujah. i spoke at a conference in protest of the war. i fully support the students. i'm seeing images of palestinians, many of them jewish themselves.

many are teenagers. none of these people are pro-hamas. they are pro-hamas. they are pro cease fire. they want the killing to stop. they want the hostages to be released, which has only happened so far under a cease fire. really, where was this kind of police respond for a like charlottesville? where was a response like this for january 6? it just does not work. you see a lot of images. you see them saying antisemitic things to get them into the news, but this is not really --

there is a horrible misinformation campaign going on. is that really what we are doing again? we have people in the national guard to our proud of shooting protesters in 1960's and staying doing again? host: fallujah has helped to shape your opinion, is that correct? caller: correct. host: what do you think hate each is? when is that mine cost? -- line crossed? caller: it is really a nonissue. when you hear something like that, specific splits -- it is always coming from pro-israeli, pro-zionist provocateurs trying to get those messages, those

chance -- chants in the news. also they can say, all of the student body across the country is just like nazis. just for disambiguation, antisemitism is racism across people in the middle east in general. people in that area are semitic people. host: john fetterman spoke over the weekend. it is less than a minute long, but i want you to listen and then get your reaction on the others. [video clip] >> it is clear that there is a germ of anti-semitism in all of these protests. sometimes it flares up.

including one of the leaders in columbia said them awful things, and then talking about not killing zionist and things like that. and then he defended himself by saying, those were taken out of context. that is very similar to the way the college presidents -- the same kind of language and cultures that create situations. it is not a surprise when you see this manifested itself on a campus like this. it is a great american value to protest, but i do not believe living and a pup to -- tend is helpful. -- tent is helpful. host: david, your thoughts on that? caller: a big problem that i'm

hearing, as far as the conversation is that zionist are trying to conflict judaism and jewish culture with themselves, with their own movement. zionism is not the same thing as judaism. zionism is a ultranationalist movement that places jewish supremacy at the center of their agenda. it is not the same. i will say this. john fetterman is trying to make it seem like this is a new nazi movement in the u.s. zionist and the party is a fascist movement who are colonizing what is not really their homes. they are moving beyond the areas that they took early in the 20th century. now they are just trying to take all of jordan and all of

lebanon. again, they are not jewish. they are zionists. they are jewish fascists. they will do that as long as they have our direct support. host: braley is a student in minnesota. braley, college student, i assume. caller: yes. i just think it is wro to sto them from using their first amendment rights. the right to free speech. and also, israel is occupying palestine. they need -- they keep taking more than.

they need to get back some land or something. so yeah. that is what i have to say. john fetterman is wrong. host: can you tell us what is happening on your campus? caller: right now, nothing is really happening. we have not really done much. i'm hoping that we will start to do something. host: has the administration address this issue of what is happening on other campuses? is there some communication about this issue in general? caller: they sent out a letter, and email saying that -- but that is about it.

i think they are just trying to keep it on the low down. but i do hope that we can get together and do something. host: is not something you are actively involved in, braley? caller: yes. host: in what way, if you do not mind me saying? caller: i attend protests. and i am educated on the conflict. and i have learned some stuff about how israel is occupying palestine. i see myself on the history of palestine and israel. host: when you say i have

learned some stuff, where do you get your news or information on this? caller: al jazeera. a french podcast and i do my own research and look up stuff. and i base my information on what websites have the same information. host: a student out of minnesota. appreciate the call. allied that we are holding open for students. we want to hear what is happening on your campus and how that interaction has gone. we also have an open forum segment later in the program today. may is a republican.

good morning. caller: first of all, i strongly disagree with those who are saying that this is not, or that what they are doing is actually helping hamas greatly. i strongly agree. people need to read what the protesters are saying. and doing. yes, we agree with peaceful protest, no question. no question about peaceful protest on both sides. anybody can protest freely, but peacefully. violence and destruction of property is not acceptable. speaking violence and speaking about killing people, i

personally med many of these protesters have said and that is not acceptable at all. and they need to focus on that. israel was attacked. they were visually -- viciously and brutally attacked by people who wanted to kill. there is your genocide. it is in hamas' writing. if they just do their research. host: right. are you in the city, elizabeth? caller: good morning. i have just been listening. there should be no national guard. these students have paid tuition at columbia university.

and other places. they are petitioning their administrators to listen to them. and doing their best. any investment in the people in israel who are dropping 2000 pound bombs that our taxpayer dollars have supplied them with, 34,000 people have been killed. in gaza. and children are dying. there are many with little children running around, orphan children running around. it is very disconcerting because we are in the 21st century and there should be an opportunity for people to have discussions rather than to drop bombs on

people. that, i believe is what is motivating these students around the country to demonstrate that there should be no killing. there should be talks. yes, hamas did in action on october 7. and the israelis, the idea -- they responded. they could have said, we are looking for hamas. they could have used police action rather than dropping 2000 pounds bombs on residences where people lived. the aspect of genocide is in the equation because rather than arresting or seeking the hamas

member, civilians, their family members etc. are being killed arbitrarily. and is continuing. host: in terms of talks, secretary antony blinken is on his way to the middle east for another round of talks on a possible round of cease fire before heading on to israel. president biden spoke with benjamin netanyahu and a phone conversation. the pressure continues to mount. it happened yesterday. plenty of members of congress talking about the issue.

[video clip] >> senator comic-con things be true? some folks have tapped into a deep undercurrent of anti-semitism. >> anti-semitism is a violent and disgusting ideology that has resulted in the deaths of many millions of people the last hundred years. divide out for a moment that anti-semitism exists and is growing in the u.s.? that it exists among some people in the movement? of course. but here is the reality. right now, what the government is doing is unprecedented in the modern history of warfare. they have killed 33,000 palestinians, wounded others, to

third of whom are women and children. they have destroyed over 60% of the housing. have destroyed the health care system and the infrastructure, no electricity, very little water and right now we are looking at the possibility of mass starvation. when you make -- that is a reality. host: senator bernie sanders on face the union. we are asking, should there be a federal government role -- should they intervene in the protests that have going on? we have held a special line open for administrators, students and faculty. good morning. ok.

i do not think we have tom. let's go to christine. caller: yes. i am 75 and i am watching on tv. i would not call that a student protest. i do not think these demonstrators are -- not to support aid to israel as they commit genocide. this is genocide. i feel the jewish natn as it is right now is defying any humanitarian laws or rules. i cannot see it. i do not understand why y are element aiding any fe sech that asks for peace, negotiation, and allowing a nation that is more powerful than any other in the middle

east to kill this many people. host: this is don. thank you for getting up early. caller: hello. we have a complex going on here. did you notice they are the same brand? they were pretty much bought at the same place. whatever happened to the old song? at the tip of my nose. when your so-called peaceful protests are preventing people from going about their daily lives, preventing people from getting to work, preventing students from studying. i'm sorry, but you're not practicing a peaceful protests. her practicing a form of terrorism. we are terrorizing people and trying to make them afraid so they will start agreeing with you. another thing about these colleges? when are they going to start giving refunds? they are supposed to provide a

safe place for their students to learn. these places are host: host: far from safe now. -- far from safe now. host: alecia finley and wall street journal said it may be premature to call the protest and assault on jewish students across the country a tipping point but it seems they are recalling the best and brightest behaving like our variance. counting and players high school students to rethink the value of their degree. it depends on the reputation of the institution. many parents are not willing to spend a small fortune for their students to -- employers think twice about hiring ivy league alumni. caller: why would he want to? you know, this is where we are

going with our university. it is a really good analogy. i do not know where their morals come from but they are certainly not regularit is like they are . these other colleges that are calling scientists fascists -- that are calling zionists fascists, lookup the brownshirts. these students are practicing brownshirts tactics. i am for state and federal authorities to clear them out because they are not practicing peaceful protests. host: one last call in the segment. john in ohio. about one minute left. caller: not enough time. the fascism is going on by israel right now.

they are perpetrating fascist genocide. it is being perpetrated by the fascist media in this country. the corporate media. if you look up cia operation mockingbird, that is the cia covert name for its massive infiltration of the media. all we are hearing is this one-sided smearing. guest: we will hold off on the conspiracy theories. we will end the segment there -- host: we will hold off on the conspiracy theories. we will end the segment there. the house back in session. the senate back tomorrow. we are joined by politico's katherine tully-mcmanus. and a look at how latino voters could impact the 2024 election. a discussion with arturo vargas.

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move on that motion to vacate. where are we as the house returns today? guest: we are still waiting. marjorie taylor greene file that weeks and weeks ago. the house has twice been on recess since then. she really can pull that trigger at any moment to try to move that forward. she has gained an ally in thomas massie. a couple others. which is very dangerous for speaker johnson. the idea of a growing coalition to remove him. that is how we got here in the first place with removal of kevin mccarthy. what i'm interested to see is if the anchor over the spending bills that johnson pushed through with democratic aid earlier this spring, if that anger will continue to foment and grow this marjorie taylor greene coalition with massey and others or if johnson can give

any of these folks things they want to see if he can get them to back off. he was defiant when passing the spending bills, and then with the aid to ukraine and israel. he kind of said if this cost me my job, i will have done the job. that is what we are watching now. that defiance was adjusting thing to see from a very unexpected speaker. none of us at the beginning of this year thought we would see speaker mike johnson. host: a reminder of what the margins are in terms of votes in the house and what role democrats are likely to play if this motion to vacate comes up. guest: johnson's majority is tiny. minuscule. we are talking two to three votes. what is interesting, the larger marjorie taylor greene -- the

longer marjorie taylor greene weights to activate this motion to vacate his there are a lot of vacancies in the house and almost all of them heavily favor republicans. some of those vacancies that are creating this tight margin, republicans are about the clawback a larger majority. not a significant majority, but more than a handful. it is less than a handful of republicans interested of removing the speaker. host: is that motivation for marjorie taylor greene to act sooner? guest: that is time pressure on her. as we get towards jude johnson for republican roster will be growing. unless we see major upsets. that throws a whole different calculation if democrats were to take a numerical majority. host: as we get to june, we just

came off the foreign aid package that included the ukraine funding. what are considered to be must to do items or other legislative items that could further upset that certain block of the republican conference that is already upset with mike johnson? guest: up ahead, one of the deadlines is the may 10 deadline. they just released an agreement overnight. we do not have response to that. they will absolutely be talking about that as they hit in. that will start in the senate. what is interesting is what will get tacked onto that. there will not be that many major legislative vehicles for the end of the year. it is only the spring. it is election year. anything there voting on could become liabilities for their reelection and the election of either president joe biden or

donald trump. hitching whatever they can onto this faa bill, those attachments , whether online child safety, whether expending the amount of flights out of dcaa in washington, those will be legislative fights on the sidelines of this big bill that could once again put speaker johnson in a pinch. host: may 10 is that deadline. staying on speaker johnson and the house. speaker johnson goes to columbia university. he said he will speak to the president about bringing the national guard. are we going to see some sort of legislative action that gets congress more involved here when it comes to campus student protests, free speech versus hate speech, all of these issues around these protests. guest: i think the easiest thing

congress can do our resolutions, sent to the house, things in support of israel in opposition to anti-semitism. i do expect to see republicans leading the charge to condemn anti-semitic speech on college campuses. that is something that could come as soon as this week. i think substantive game changing legislation is going to be very hard to come by in the coming weeks and months. on this topic where there are divisions within jewish communities, divisions politically among democrats, and i think that will be more challenging. host: katherine tully-mcmanus with us until 8:30 eastern time. (202) 748-8001 four republicans,

(202) 748-8000 democrats. independents, (202) 748-8002. perhaps the best in the business for telling you what is happening on capitol hill and why. a change of pace. this came out from politico last week. the top 10 list of the thirsty is members of congress. explain what we mean by that and who made some of the top 10? guest: thursday is a lighthearted term. we are talking folks. people talk about chuck schumer. the dangerous place in washington might be between schumer and a tv camera. we are talking to folks who you if they are so far on the periphery of an issue they would love to be front and center, they would love to be talking to you even more. they just want to have their hands in everything.

on my side of things as a reporter, that means i am getting texts from their staff about every topic under the sun, even if it is not their state or their district, they have something to say about it. it is an interesting dynamic. there is the reason for me to quote this person in my story. they are so far removed. host: does this the first-ever list? guest: we have done it before. the funny thing is all press is good press. they take it with pride will some may cringe a little bit. part of the job of being in congress is reaching your constituents wherever you are. sometimes that is a media strategy. host: who are we talking about here? guest: the list is wide-ranging.

the one my team interaction with is some freshman, jared moskowitz. he is a freshman, a democrat from florida. as a freshman you do not get a lot of big swings on serious legislation or lead any kind of coalition. that means his strategy has been to have a thought almost everything, even as he is brand-new for capitol hill. there is also the other side. desperate to think about, jared moskowitz. host: the next one down is mike lee. guest: mike lee has a reputation as a naysayer. whenever the senate is close to unanimous consent to speed things along everyone's eyes are turning to mike lee because he will slow it down. he will object, he will make

sure he is on the floor when that unanimous consent comes through. he is less of a spotlight media seeker, but definitely someone all has turned to use of the -- maybe someone might come across the finish line. host: a head scratcher for me on the list. former congressman george santos is still one? guest: absolutely. this weekend he was rating reporters outfits on twitter. he just hung up his hat to not continue his reelection bid. can you call reelection when you have been removed? he is someone who is committed to keeping his voice in the mix even when his colleagues said we are not interested in your voice

and having you here. host: for the artistic representations of these members and the fullest, politico.com. there is the artistic representation of senator john fetterman. let me get some calls while we have you. 15 minutes left with katherine tully-mcmanus. this is harry. good morning. caller: good morning. host: what is your question? caller: my question is speaker johnson is right -- refusing to give support ukraine. ukraine is a corrupted country. [indiscernible] i think that is true. host: when it came to ukraine aid, what assurances are in this legislation that money will not

be wasted, abused? are there more efforts to track u.s. dollars going toward you? guest: there has been a huge motivation, especially many of the more trump aligned republicans did not want this aid to ukraine. they are ready to let ukraine stand on its own feet and see what happens with russia. the folks who are interested in continuing to send a, especially republicans are looking for more guardrails on the aid. there is not huge evidence of this aid being funneling other places like we have seen in other conflict zones but it is possible. something that was emphasized among republicans when they were considering that legislation was

that so much of this most recent round of funding was going to the u.s. to reinvigorate and refill our stockpile of machinery, weapons, aviation because we have been sending so much ukraine already. this might be a boat with shiny stuff but a refill on the u.s. end of thing. host: an update on the acp extension, is that the affordable connectivity program? guest: i am not sure where that stands. i will say that programs like that, we are looking at at this point those being tacked on to other things. i think it might be a little bit

unlikely at this point for that to move as a standalone. you are someone who is following that closely, be looking for that to be added to other big legislation moving forward. host: that story from politico, millions of americans could use internet aid months before the 2024 election going into the affordable connectivity program that helps 22 million households pay their internet bill. politico.com for that story. this is erica north palm beach party. -- in north palm beach florida -- this is eric in north palm beach florida. caller: i will try to stick to your topic about -- on aid the united states is supporting, particularly the israel and

palestinian mass, let's see. in the protest you are talking about, also. just because you are questioning the jewish or the israeli positions, i do not think you can label those genitive protests as anti-semitic. then you are talking about endorsing israel. i don't understand and maybe you can elaborate how this may come in to the context of congress, how israel can be 100% supported when they are supporting land designated for the palestinians and are opposed to ongoing solutions and resolutions both by the fully visions of a two state solution.

if there is new programming about how the context of the united nations has dealt with recommendations, that would be refreshing. host: you're asking about the debate among members when it comes to israel and how the human factors into this? guest: absolutely. i think that discussion of whether criticism of the government of israel, criticism of benjamin netanyahu and his government's policies is anti-semitism is one of these hot button and emotional debates, running -- happening in campus encampments and on capitol hill. there is division within the democratic party between members who are full throated in support of israel no matter what and members are really seeking nuance and seeking.

-- bringing deep criticism for the way that benjamin netanyahu has conducted these assaults on hamas and -- in the palestinian territories. host: going back to ukraine funding, i saw this headline today. "republican introduces legislation to prohibit the waiving of foreign flags." this coming after the funding was eventually passed, foreign aid funding. some democratic members waiving ukrainian flags on the poor of the house. guest: that made some members really uncomfortable and they did not like the optics of american lawmakers on the floor of the house of representatives

waiving a different country's flag. there have been calls of disloyalty. i think that is overblown. what i do think, those critical members are conscious of, how tides can turn. host: we are showing viewers of the images of members waving flags. guest: tides can turn. who knows who may lead ukraine in the coming decades. to have that kind of show of support legislatively is different than those images of waving that flag in the seat of the united states legislature. it is making people uncomfortable. folks have called for censure and ethics inquiries.

it was dozens of democrats so i do not expect broad punishment. there collects on the other side of the aisle had some condemnation of that behavior. they were handed out by members themselves, so this was not any kind of seating by any outside organization. host: this push for banning that congresswoman come the congresswoman from florida, who brought this legislation. guest: that would require a change to the house rules similar to other decorum regulations. if you're not the person speaker you cannot have a poster. you cannot have and i disagree with him poster, similar to the dress code and things like that

that would require changing the house rules, which we have seen in the past many times. i'm interesting to see if -- i'm interested to see if this is something where speaker mike johnson bites. host: we showed that video of thomas massie. he took the video of members of congress waving flags. members of congress are not supposed to take video when there on the floor of the south -- when there on the floor. he says the house sergeant of arms threaten to find him and it was speaker johnson who stepped in to say we do not agree with that assessment of the sergeant of arms and there will not be a fine here. guest: this is an interesting dynamic where sometimes the sergeant at arms is working at the behest of leadership. we saw that with the enforcement of metal detectors and things like that.

sometimes they are making a call on their own and maybe not involving political leadership at all. i talked with multiple staff last week about this. there assessment was there's not a lot of evidence of these tight shot sophie's. they are also not allowed. it was a sweeping video and pay and panned the entire chamber. the staff i talked to said you could see why the sergeant of arms -- a little anxious about showing the security at exits and things like that. i do not like to talk about capital security because i'm working in there and i would like to stay safe. it was interesting to see the sergeant of arms trying to levy the $500 fine against massey and

then to have the speaker say hold on, no. especially when both of those tweets were dispersing mike johnson directly. that is what this tweets were about. that was a colleague attacking him. he said you have to let this one go. host: democrats are celebrating johnson's "total capitulation with no victory for securing our border." a caller for michigan has been waiting. what is your question? caller: good morning. i would more like to make a statement instead of asking the question. how come we do not get better information from the news reporters and stuff like that.

it seems like everything is slanted against one side and the other side and then the other side so it does not fix anything. that makes it not worth even having a government to begin with which is really nerve-racking. out here in the real world we are just working and doing our own thing trying to pay bills. this doesn't make sense to me why it is happening. host: in defense of congressional reporters? guest: i am the leading of one of the standard committees of correspondence on capitol hill and we credential a wide range of outlets, some with ideological viewpoints and some without. i would say the majority without. we do not exclude those with ideological viewpoints.

i would say we are trying to get to the truth, we are trying to get the facts. we are in direct communication with lawmakers and staff and we are trying to convey not what is happening on capitol hill but why in the dynamics and power and pressures at play. what happens on capitol hill can be opaque and confusing if you are not a full-time government expert in trying to break down those complicated, whether it is procedural dynamics or interpersonal dynamics. why these democrats hate each other, why republicans fighting each other. is what we are trying to break down and provide the american people. host: we appreciate you and your colleagues come on because allowing people not just to read the story, but then to interact

with reporters and ask questions and make it part of that breaking down those barriers. thank you for coming on and taking questions. guest: i do love a c-span caller. host: what else are you watching for this week? guest: i am looking at the dynamics within each of the caucus. it sounds crazy to say the final stretch of this congress, but as we stared down the barrel of the 2024 election, we have not been in session during these encampments propping up across the country. now that is in so many more members districts. i think we'll see a lot of response to that with multiple perspectives. the criticism of the state of israel and anti-semitism and those conversations will be hot and challenging on capitol hill.

host: katherine tully-mcmanus. congress reporter with politico. see her work at politico.com. thank you. guest: host: coming up later in the program committee discussion with the national association of appointed officials. arturo vargas on latino voters and election 20. until then, legal return to that question was -- that we began our program with today. whether federal or state government should intervene in protests. we want to get your thoughts. a special set -- eight -- a special line has been set aside for you. we will get to those calls right after the break.

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>> washington journal continues. host: getting your sense of these college protests over the israel and hamas conflict. it has led to hundreds of arrest and some members of congress calling for the national guard to end some demonstrations. an idea of how large the protests have gotten. 900 protesters have been arrested at these various protests across college campuses. a wrap up the washington times at columbia, which was the center of the protests at the beginning. more than 100 students on thursday, prompting a mass walkout. arizona state university said many were arrested.

but eastern university in boston and washington university in st. louis. they arrested protesters at austin last week. california canceled one of their commitment -- one of their commitments. speculation that other colleges will follow suit. we are asking you about the role. should they intervene in this campus protests? what are your thoughts? if you are a college student, administrator or faculty member, you can call (202) 748-8003. caller: hello. i am calling -- my concern is the national debt. i'm looking at my newspaper this

morning and it says on wednesday , the outstanding u.s. public debt was 40 $7 trillion, and increase from last year. host: the debt is a topic that we often talk about, but we are talking about the protests. caller: ok. the protest. i do not understand by israel, taiwan and whatever cannot borrow the money that we are sending them. 26 trillion and 13,000,000,000,002 taiwan. i mean billions. why can't they borrow the money instead of just giving it to them? we are doing deeper and deeper into debt.

i see no ending to this. host: mike is in dallas. republican. good morning. caller: good morning, sir. my concern are the white premises -- white supremacist protesting on these campuses. letting them shutdown bridges and stuff. they are not white supremacist, are they? they are children of rich immigrants. if this was republicans out there doing this, they would be white supremacists, but these are rich democrat children. host: this is gina in mississippi. republican. good morning. caller: good morning. i would like to point out the difference in how the they are treated compared to the

hard-working, middle-class, conservative american who protest. these people are being coddled, protected, revered. american citizens who were dissatisfied with our government . they are arresting people and it is absolutely ridiculous. this is the result of obama. he planted them in our nation and now -- it is -- if you really think about it, it is so unfair and so wrong. the previous two colors about the national debt, i agree with them. host: upper marlboro, maryland.

good morning. caller: good morning. i just want to talk to you here. i had the opportunity to go to a protest host: host: last week. -- protest last week. host: what kind of protested you go to an -- go to? caller: georgetown. host: george washington university in d.c.? caller: yes. it was apparent that people calling in on the republican line have not had the opportunity to ask the students what they want, which is a simple divestment from the

israeli lobby about the institution. somebody mentioned gw was far more fascist. [indiscernible] we are willing to oblige. but i have noticed when i was there twice is that the zionists, the anti-protesters were more hostile to the protesters and were more likely to incur any violence. host: on what you want or what protesters one, it is just divestment of university investment, correct? is that correct? are you still with us?

caller: host: can you hear me? is that correct? is that what you are saying that you want? caller: that is correct. host: i would point out that the columbia university protest -- this is not the one that you attended, but the protesters at columbia are part of the columbia university who divested the organizations that they represent thousands of students. they want to sever all university ties. all study a poet -- study abroad programs. they want to prevent man grabs. that is one of the demands according to what is on their website. these are all washington times wrap up with some of the demands that they put on their website. some of the demands are much more than just divestments.

pricing is a simple divestment, and your mind. -- you are saying it is a simple divestment, in your mind. caller: yes. i believe that ideology of all the protest is anticapitalism, anti-colonialism and anti-imperialism. all negative outcomes that we see inside and outside our borders, the world is burning come our children are dying -- i would just like everyone to wake up. you have a good day. host: when you go back to dw or any of these other protests? caller: i will be out there.

the students had a need to wrap themselves around. the things that they saw at ohio state, they needed to protect the worshipers to prevent the police from potentially arresting them. this is the heart of american freedom. there seems to be a certain class of people who are under that violence. i just do not see how people are not seeing this. host: out of maryland. this is robert out of florida. caller: i think the public should get involved in that.

sympathizers should be removed from america. they should not be allowed back in the country. host: including american citizens? caller: they are against america and against --they are terrorists. host: next caller. good morning. caller: look, watching some of this on tv, i haveeen 88 -- obvious hate crimes that are not being pursd by the justice department. i saw someone say not 10 times more, the repeat. of course, he was masked, but that is certainly terroristic threatening, if you are saying it to a jewish person. where is the fbi?

they should be o these campuses, finding out who the people who are not students, who are the people who are not american citizens? who are the people who might have terrorist ties? when you have people chanting death to america, everyone of those people should be interned and interrogated. host: that is charles in arkansas. the punch bowl news, another one of the publications noting in their newsletter this morning that house republican leaders are planning on bringing up the bipartisan anti-semitism bill drafted. it would require them to use a broader definition of anti-semitism when enforcing antidiscrimination laws. this was speaker mike johnson along with republicans. this was monday last week.

[video clip] >> my intention is to share with him what we have seen with our own two eyes and insist that he take action. if these threats and intimidation are not stopped, there is an appropriate time for the national guard. we cannot allow this to happen around the country. we are better than this. i will ask the president to do that. >> what is the house going to do? >> the house has been investigating a number of these campuses and there is a nexus of federal funding. if they cannot get control of the problem, they do not deserve taxpayer dollars. that is a serious issue. we have brought the presidents of these universities to congress to testify under oath and you have seen accountability begun there.

we will work on legislation to adjust at the federal level. this congress -- i believe there is bipartisan agreement on this. they will stand for what is good and right. we are going to do what is right by america. we respect free speech. meet respect diversity of ideas, but there is a way to do that in a lawful manner, and that is not what this is. host: the author of that bipartisan anti-semitism bill just over his shoulder speaking of president biden, president biden yesterday spoke on the phone with benjamin netanyahu as the pressure continues to mount to reach a deal about a cease-fire and freeing hostages. the secretary of state antony blinken is traveling to the middle east. and very much, one of the focus

is cease-fire in this ongoing conflict. your phone calls for about the next 30 minutes here asking about your thoughts on the federal or state government role in these protests. this is andrew, an independent. good morning. caller: they are in a position to listen to all the speakers and pick out all these nuances that they see. i enjoyed myself listening to some of the stuff. frankly, these protests, i do not know why they have to protest. they are supporting independent palestinian space? a unilateral cease-fire? i have not heard any media

barrage about offers of peace negotiations. i do not hear from and israel negotiating. maybe some of these protesters are misguided because we have so many intelligence organizations somehow having influence on the u.s. this question of the middle east, we have israel, egypt, jordan, lebanon, iraq, iban -- there are dozens of countries involved. these people running around -- calling themselves students. i love students. back in the day, i remember students carrying pistols. i thought carrying firearms and threatening to lynch people is a crime.

but i do not know if just talking is a crime. i resent the fact that people can be penalized for what i call freedom of speech, even if it is racially, politically or religiously motivated. i just do not understand it. the media does not suss it out. the politicians do not want to get involved with it because they are completely separate from everyone else. some of the issues i can get into -- it is unbelievable what flashes into my head. a lot of times, people are reflecting the confusion in america and not any of the brilliance that america has. i worry about this country, not because i support democrat of a republican or left-wing

right-wing or whatever. it is because this confusion, this ignorance is pervasive across all political spectrums. there is no place to go because who respects ignorance? host: do you mind if i ask how old you are? caller: 70. host: as a 70-year-old, when was the last time that you felt like there was not this pervasive ignorance in the country? go ahead. caller: we started getting a lot of this occurring around the time of jimmy carter and ronald reagan. jimmy carter supported a reduction in social services and we lost the election. model reagan came in and implemented the same plan. nixon supported a reduction of taxes and kennedy was the one

who won the issue. very often come they have the same ideas and claim the ideas to make headway. like i support education, i support the military where i support defense. it is all rhetorical. it means almost nothing. unless he read the fine print, which is why this cease fire thing bothers me because i support arab nationalists and i support jewish nationalist, but i recognized them both as nationalist. i recognize the victims of what are occurring. i do not feel like the government is doing enough to protect people. i do not think the students i do not think the protesters are doing a good job of raising the issue because they are not very

precise. host: this is eddie on our line for democrats. from michigan. good morning. caller: i have one question i wanted to ask you. why does it have to be -- you have republican, democrat and independent calling in? this is not a republican or democrat situation. as far as students speaking, you did read a topic from a paper that some of the students got arrested, but trespassing -- that is against the law. that is against the law anywhere. ok. now as far as them speaking, they have the right to speak. the first amendment -- it is a fine line in that first amendment, but you can do and

what you are not allowed to do. as far as the national guard, i do not see why you need a national guard. unless somebody is getting out of control. now if the campus once all these students removed from their property, they can do so. so, that would be trespassing. host: let me bounce this off of you. renewing a set of challenges for police. let me give you one example. at least one university involved in the protests scrambled to remove protesters before calling in the police. indiana universe -- administrators changed course on

a policy that allowed temporary structures like tents and signs in a park except during overnight hours. a spokesperson said the policy includes a provision that allows changes in the rule as needed and officials did so to balance free speech and safety. campus police arrested people on charges on public safety. caller: ok. you said all of that. now, was there anything illegal about that? but they did an was there any violence? were there any types of rioting going on? where they setting off any kind of things to start a riot?

or are they just talking about the israel and hamas situation? host: in the story, the battery on a public safety official sounds like something that is violent. as far as breaking laws, the idea was that they changed the policy and then sent in police after changing the policy to move them off the property. that story is in the washington post, if you want to learn more about the challenges that they are confronting. caller: good morning. what i want to say is i was at kent state when the shootings happened. several different things happened as far as with the students. the reason all the protests are going on right now is the fact

that it is spring and the weather is nice. he did not see anybody out in the middle of november and december protesting because it was cold and miserable to sit on the ground. that is one thing that happened. there are a lot of people from outside the university. can't state, it was the people who came from ann arbor. they kept coming in and trying to stir up the protest on it. an old building was ready to fall over anyhow, but on all of these things, the number one, you cannot have the national guard come because that becomes a political maneuver. that is what happened at kent. it was the gentleman who was the

governor of ohio he wanted to be a senator. he insisted on having the national guard coming in. the national guard was not well trained. all these things. if anybody studied history at all, they would discover the way all these things happened. why we should not repeat what has happened in the past. host: what memories do have about that day in the days after? caller: was the most horrific thing i had seen in my life. when it happened i was to the side when the shootings happened. that whole day -- i lived with my parents. when i came to kent on monday morning, before the protests have been going on there were helicopters flying over. it was an occupied city.

i vowed at that time -- i was only 18 years old but i can never see that again. i cannot imagine a small city in the united states was occupied by the military. it escalated all the time, every second with all the things going on. immediately after the shootings happened, there were so many rumors that happened that there were snipers in the dorms and all these other things. the university had to be closed immediately. a lot of students at that time were from out of state. they did not have cars. they had to get out of campus right away. we were not allowed on campus. we had to take all of our finals and everything.

mailing in essays and so forth. i hope that nobody else in the u.s. goes through what kent went through. it was just -- it took you -- it would take me years to describe. all the people that were older said, they should have shot them all. we had to go through years of hearing all that kind of stuff as well. host: a famous picture of the student kneeling by the other student's body on the ground. again, may 4, 1970. do you remember hearing the shot? caller: yes. it was just -- we were all in shock. that girl standing above, she was naive and from kent state at all. she was a runaway that just

happened to be there. it was incredible. you have to understand. it was nice weather. if that were a tuesday or monday, i would have been in the midst of it. host: did you agree with the protesters? caller: i was against the war, but i was incredibly nervous about this idea of the national guard. the thing of it is, these were young guys who did not want to be in vietnam. they had voted.

there was such a chemistry about things that would be bad. keep in mind that after the shootings happened, originally, the students were indicted and charged with causing the riot and causing the shootings to happen, which of course, there were no looted -- no loaded weapons there. 1980, i would never go back to the 1980's at all. everyone was so mad and there was so much hate on both sides. it was horrific. host: what did you study at kent and did you finish your studies? caller: i went back, but i did not get my degree at kent. i got my degree in english.

i am retired now. i sit at home listening to c-span every day. host: what work did you go into after you graduated? caller: a lot of things. i was a musician and i managed from places. it has been a good life for me. host: are you still in touch with anybody from kent state your freshman year? caller: no. i have reached the age where so many of my friends have passed away. nothing to do with kent. it is just the way life is when you get older. thank you so much for letting me speak. have a wonderful day. host: south carolina, democrat. thank you for waiting. caller: how are you doing this morning? i have been listening since this has been going on, the fight between the jews and gaza or

whatever. both sides need to sit down and look at it. and then on the other side, they have killed a lot of people. there is killing on both sides. the president is trying to stay out of it and stay neutral. the republicans want to -- in protest, i know about protesting. where are the people -- let's do it right. they have not said anything about -- you never hear about that, but

you also -- you always hear about palestine. but let's sit down and talk about this thing. nobody will be right with all these people. there will be no right. let's get to it. host: june is in california. caller: the gentleman who called to calls ahead, i was a teenager when that happened. i do not think they should send the national guard. i think the governor should work along with the president of the colleges. i remember the citizens and the protests in san francisco.

the majority of them were taking care of peacefully because the government stayed out of it. the state took care of the protesters and tried to keep them clean and under control. the federal government was exercising the constitution. what they can do to keep the rest of us safe. i remember my mom telling me that history repeats itself if we do not learn from the past. that is what i see going on right now. host: in terms of what universities should and should not be doing, it was mitch mcconnell who was on face the nation yesterday. here is what he had to say. [video clip] >> the first amendment is important, but it does not give you the ability to claim there

is a fire going on in the theater because it threatens everyone else. these university presidents need to get control of the situation. they need to allow free speech and pushback against anti-semitism. i thought that was largely gone in this country, that -- but we have seen a number of young people who are actually anti-semitic. why don't they sit down and have a civil conversation rather than trying to dominate the talk? the first line of defense are the university presidents. >> you would not go to the national guard at this point? >> let's say they get control of the situation. they should be able to do that through civil discussion. that is what college education is supposed to be about. i would be interested in hearing the anti-semitic people explain the justification for that kind of talk. >> president biden says he

condemns the anti-semitic protest and condemns those who do not understand what is going on in palestine with the palestinians. do you agree with that statement? >> i can speak for myself. what i think is what i just said about how these college campuses should be controlled by the administrations. host: senate minority leader mitch mcconnell on face the nation yesterday. should the federal government, state government intervene in protests? democrats, independents and a special line for administrators. we especially want to hear from you. lying for republican. you are. >> --

caller: thank you for having me. i support the protesters. they have a legitimate right to be there. the palestinians have suffered a lot. israel basically stole their land from them. i do not want to speak out of context, but israel has such a powerful media campaign to subvert people onto their side. they have mechanized armor, advanced technology, advanced warfare. the palestinians do not have anything. i think americans could learn a lot from the palestinians. even with rocks in their hands -- israel has engineered consent. mitch mcconnell and all of them

call themselves -- they all take money from israel to fund their campaigns. everybody is on israel's side. republicans, democrats, it is a big mess. there is nothing real there. if the israelis are guilty of the same thing they blame socialists for doing to them. host: what you mean when you say there is nothing real there. caller: they are engineering consent. they are using their social media machine to grab hold of people and blame everything on the palestinians, but what happened leading up to that? those people do not have freedom of movement. they need papers to go from one city block in gaza to another

city block. israel has complete control of them. host: it leads to this question. you think what happened october seventh was justified? caller: in the long run, what they did lead up to that. the palestinians are kept like prisoners. israel has complete control of them. they embody that. host: this is mark in flint, michigan. caller: good morning. i blame the media for all of this. hamas, when they broke the cease-fire made a video of their work crimes. why hasn't the main media shown that to the american people? c-span is guilty as well.

where have you been when it comes to putting that video out? that is all i have to say. it is a one-sided conversation. the protesters have half the information they need, and i think they should see that video that hamas made of their work crimes. thank you. host: mark in michigan. next caller from kansas. good morning. caller: good morning. i appreciate you being there every morning. i have a comment on the protests but i asked -- i ask you to look this up and look at what mr. obama was doing in 2015 and 2016 against president trump. anyways, i say teargas,

nightsticks pause. host: mississippi independent. good morning. caller: good morning. how are you? host: i'm doing well. what do you think? caller: that last caller was pretty gross, but i just want to y that the students on the ground are telling us what is happening there and our counter protesters are trying to disrupt people's protests by antagonizing people, using racial slurs and such. and how police are disrupting peace prayer. i just want to say that fascism is forcing others to play a dangerous game of make-believe. that is why thearsaying that the protesters are hamas.

the good guys and everody else is bad. in reference to spke johnson and other imperlis -- they just want to silence the protesters. right? that is why they are mentioning the national guard. they are like, stop making us look bad because they are participating and supporting a genocide. i do not know what kind of person sees mothers screaming and crying over their dead children and -- to the protesters who i support, i want to communicate a message from the children of palestine. there was a video of them that came out. they were saying thank you. they hear you. they know that they are not alone in this. host: in your mind, what about

this idea when free speech becomes hate speech an caller: well, people kind of conflate violence with speech. i am seeing that happening. they are just words, you know what i'm saying? sorry. go ahead. host: it was in boston, where people were detained when an encampment was cleared. university said what began as a student demonstration was infiltrated by professional organizers with no affiliation with the university. the use of a virulent anti-semitic slur crossed the line. we cannot tolerate this kind of heat on our campus. talking about those detainment's

that happened at boston. caller: i think it is a situation that is escalating, right? there is a video of ucla? a guy came in and was trying to antagonize someone. the student protesters were well organized. they tried to separate them from the rest of the crowd because these people are coming into purposely cause trouble in a peaceful presence. the situation is that children are dying. people are being murdered and israel is posting work crimes. i do not know if you signaled the telegram, but they were posting the dead bodies and

mocking them. it will be emotionally charged, but from what i see, we see protesters are being professional. they are staying on course. they know they do not have any room to be in any way hostile. the institutions pushing this narrative that protesters are hamas. host: running short on time. we went to get few more in here. caller: good morning. how are you? host: doing well. you are on the line for students and administrators? caller: absolutely. i wanted to share that i happen to know what happened at kent state during the time of the

protests because i was on campus , but i wanted to respond to your previous color, when you asked him the question, if he had graduated, what did he do for a living? i lived in kent state for four wonderful years after may 4. the reason i say that is because kent worked very hard as a university to turnaround the tragedy that happened that day. i became a teacher out of can't state university, still living in kent with my family. for 47 years, i taught in preschool. i think that is one thing we are overlooking with all of this is that i think we need to talk about the future of the bit more. that is one of my greatest concerns.

host: how do we get to that future? caller: i do believe it is education and i believe our students today are confused. how could they not be? i was confused during that time of the vietnam war. i wanted to find a future for myself and a career for myself. i think we need to stay focused on what children are lacking today. i am 72 years old, so i had a supportive family. i knew what my goals were. i knew where i was headed. today, we have so many more people in the u.s. and so many different opportunities that it does become confusing and it also becomes a little bit

threatening. i think the confusion and threatening of where are they going? what are their goals? what do they want to do? we can become overwhelmed. i do not know if that makes sense or not, but it is not that we have to be together and what we think, but we have to be secure in where we are leading ourselves. the next 30 years, what is that going to look like an i do nothing today that if you break the law at 15 and 16 -- you are not going to be able to get that great job out there because you are going to carry it on your back, a label that says i do not know what my future will look like. i think we have gone away from that with our young children. host: do you think children today are secure in leading themselves? i ask in relation to the stories

in the new york times talking about the senior class of 2024. there are those who are perhaps having their senior year of college disrupted. they have canceled ceremonies. these are the same kids who when they were seniors in high school , it was a covid year. not having that experience in high school. are you worried about these kids? are they going to be secure in leading them elves and what they have experienced over the course ? >> how can they be secure? they are not even secure when they get out of bed tomorrow morning that they will have enough money in their bank account to pay for their food,

to pay for their car insurance. can you blame them? i took care of my eight-year-old grandson and my six-year-old twins through covid. i was concerned that they could get out of bed every day and would have a classroom to go to. i guess because i was on campus during the time of may 4. tomorrow is not promised to anyone, but it is in the hands of our use today. i understand. everybody is concerned about getting them off campus or shutting this down. i feel so strongly about it. why can't they have graduations? you are taking away something that is the greatest, proudest moment.

it is hard to go to college. it is hard to get out of bed and even go to first grade today. thank you. host: about 40 more minutes left this morning. in that time, we will talk about 2024, being joined by arturo vargas. stick around for that conversation. we will be right back. >> c-span now is a free mobile app featuring your unfiltered view of what is going on in washington. live and on-demand, keep up with the biggest events with live streams of hearings from the u.s. congress, white house events, the court, campaigns and more from the world of politics,

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free mobile app or wherever you get your podcasts. your unfiltered view of politics. >> washington journal continues. host: our focus now is on latino voters. mr. vargas, first explained the mission of the association and its history for viewers who may not know. guest: good morning and thank you for having me on your show. we are actually two organizations. one is a membership organization founded in 1976 by the late congressman who was the first latino elected to congress in california in modern times. it started as a network of

supporters all over the country. republicans, democrats and independents. to work together to promote the participation of latinos in american democracy. five years later, they funded an educational fund. to implement programs. i have been with the organization 30 years. the impact we have had over those three decades billy shows that in how many latino elected officials there are today in the country come of the number of latinos that are voting and the impact we are having on the political landscape. host: how is the government funded, for those who do not know how it works? caller: contributions and grants are tax deductible.

they are made primarily by foundations, national foundations, regional foundations and also, we get contributions from corporations. host: earlier this year, they released a report on latino voter turnout in election 2024. what did you find? guest: in 2024, we anticipate 17.5 million latinos will vote in the presidential election come november. one thing to keep in mind about 2020 is that was a historic election not just for latinos but for the entire country. we had unprecedented turnout from across the country and to see a 6% increase on top of that in 2024, we continue to get more

and more involved in the political process. host: is that across the board in every state? are they focusing on some states more than others? guest: we do have a breakdown come of that 6% is a national increase. some have lightly -- slightly larger turnouts that we predict because they are swing states and there is an investment by candidates to reach out and mobilize voters. but we are seeing latino voters being the target of the campaign and swing states such as arizona or specific campaign, we think arizona or nevada, where they are a significant segment of a statewide election and can make a significant difference in a statewide race, as we saw in arizona and nevada in 2020, in 2022, and in earlier elections. host: a 6% turnout in 2020, a 6%

increase in that turn out, i should say. how do you come up with these numbers? how much is based on latino voter turnout during the primary for 2024? guest: well, actually they are not based on the primary. if we look at the past five similar elections, where we look at the past five presidential elections, 2020, 2016, 2012, 2008, we studied the trends in terms of turnout. we looked at how the latino electorate is growing, and based on those trends, we come up with projections of what we think the turnout will look like in the election. now, as i said, this is the floor, and it does not take into account other things that may happen and may influence turnout

among latinos and non-latino voters, things like how much money is going to be invested by campaigns and candidates to mobilize voters. more voters -- will voters in texas and california be ignored because they are taken for granted by both political parties? candidates will say any time in those states, talking to voters, the problem is half of latino voters in the nation are in those states. so if you are ignoring california and texas, you are ignoring half of the latino electorate. these factors contribute to what will be the ultimate turnout of voters, november. host: another thing these projections do not take into account is the impact of misinformation and disinformation on election 2024. explain what that impact could

be, and what you are concerned about. guest: well, we are seeing latino voters be the subject this information and disinformation campaigns more and more, in both english and spanish, and broadcast and social media, where we are seeing messages that are designed to discourage latinos from voting, to perhaps question the integrity of our political system, of our election system, to, again, develop a lack of confidence in our voting system so that people will decide not to vote. so what we are trying to do with the naleo election fund -- naleo educational fund is we launched a campaign, spanish for defend the truth, and what we wanted be as a source for accurate information about the voting process, making it available to

voters, what are the laws in their particular state, advising voters if they are eligible to vote or not. we are available to help figure out where to cast the ballot, how to cast a ballot, how to fill out a mail-in ballot, if people decide to vote early, so that they have access to accurate information about the voting process. we cannot advise anybody about how to vote, we are a nonprofit organization. that is up to individual voters. but what we want to do at naleo educational fund is make sure people have the accurate information to be able to cast an informed ballot. host: talking with arturo vargas, ceo of the leo election -- naleo educational fund. republicans, (202) 748-8001.

democrats, (202) 748-8000. independents, (202) 748-8002. potato voters, setting aside a separate line for you, -- latino voters, setting aside a separate line for you, (202) 748-8003. about 20, 25 minutes or so to get your messages and. if you dictate what the top issues are heading into 2024, how would you answer? guest: one of the things we will be doing this year is to actually find out exactly what is on the mind of latino voters in 2024. one thing to keep in mind is priorities change from election to election. we have conducted tracking polls for a number of elections now, and we have seen how priorities do change for latino voters, according to circumstances, what is happening that year.

so, for example, in 2020, consistently latino voters told us one of the most important issues for them was which candidate for the presidency was going to be -- was going to address the pandemic more straight on than anybody else, and that was in part because latino voters were hit hard by covid, in terms of transfer rates, the impacts of their social economic well-being, then we go to 2022, covid is no longer a top priority, but what are top priorities are the economy, many felt the pinch of growing inflation in 2022, and the importance of women's reproductive rights, for the first time, registered as a top priority for latino voters. that was, of course, a reaction

to the supreme court decision that overturned roe v. wade. so, again, different circumstances committed for years, different priorities. for 2024, what i'm hearing around the community as inflation and the economy continue to be very top of mind for latino voters, but i also think voters are keeping an eye on what is happening in the world. i think they are concerned about the middle east, other parts of the world, affecting the economy here, such as ukraine. latino voters are not immune from world events, just like any american voter is not immune from world events. they study the impact. we will do some polling to make sure we understand exactly what are the priorities for latinos in 2024. because the worst thing to do, and we see this often times with the candidates, is to assume you know exactly what a latino

voter's priorities are, because they are a latino. they think we are single issue voters, will he want to talk about immigration reform, and they don't talk about the whole country of issues affecting people's daily lives in the united states. host: one facebook.com/cspa viewer on our twitter feed wants to know the difference between "latino" and "hispanic." guest: the way we do our naleo educational fund, we use latino, because it is our name. if you have somebody who is latino or hispanic, a semi can trace their background to a spanish-speaking -- it is somebody who can trace their background to a spanish-speaking country, whether latin america or spain. host: john, go ahead.

good morning. you are on with arturo vargas. caller: i was born and raised and am an american of mexican descent. i am voting for trump, and i agree that there is not enough media were social coverage for mexicans, american mexicans, or spanish-speaking individuals that see the other side and view the political agendas for both sides in equal processes. host: mr. vargas. guest: well, i think what the caller is getting to is the fact that people, again, make assumptions about how latinos are going to vote. they assume that they will

always vote democrat, they will never vote republican, but in fact, if you look at how latinos perform in election after election, it is, again, specific circumstances that drive the priorities that motivate latinos to vote and to vote for certain candidates. so one always is in danger of leaving votes on the table when everybody assumes that they know how latinos are going to vote. instead of going in and asking latino voters themselves, what is important to you this election? which candidate do you think will do a better job of leading the country? we don't spend enough time in this country and our political system listening to voters. we tend to much to assume that we know exactly what is on their mind and try to cater messages to them that sometimes fall flat. and with those messages fall flat, you will not get people to turn out and vote. host: why do you think joe biden

won 63% of hispanic vote in 2020? and the thought of this headline from 2024 about biden stepping up his hispanic outreach as warning signs/20 come to his latino support? guest: 63% of the vote in 2020 i think, in part, because many latino voters saw him as better being able to deal with the pandemic, because in 2020, that was the number one issue on the minds of latino voters. and i think he probably came across as a candidate most able to put the rate back from 2020. in 2024, the trump campaign, and any campaign, will be best invested by trying to serve latino voters. don't assume. go into the communities and

actually spending time with latino families in understanding what businesses are today. and the candidates that are able to take the pulse of the latino community, more often than not, and up being the most successful getting the support in the election. host: in new york, this is steven, live for democrats. good morning. caller: hi, good morning. thank you for all the work you put in on c-span, and thanks to your guest here. i have a question, i think you mentioned this information a few minutes back, and i just want to get your thoughts. how can someone, again, this is for everyone, right? we are riddled with misinformation on social media, you know, friends and family have misinformation. how can someone educate themselves to know what is misinformation and what is not? how should they approach those

conversations with friends and family and others that, you know, talk about these different topics? host: thanks for the question. guest: yeah. thank you for that question, because that is important. there are different definitions for what is disinformation and misinformation. in some cases, myths and disinformation is intentional, designed to actually communicate erroneous information, so that is to confuse voters or try to influence the way voters behave in the voting booth, based on, again, myths and disinformation. sometimes it is just the wrong affirmation that is not intentionally distributed. what we are really concerned about is what happens when there are different sources trying to influence american voters. we have heard about this coming from china and russia, but it comes from the united states as well. one of the things we do at naleo

educational fund's we are doing training for community leaders so they can recognize what mis- and disinformation looks like. learn the definition. i encourage them to go to our website at www.naleo.org, and there we have the landing page for our campaign, where you can look at the definitions of mis- and disinformation as well as what you can do about it to ensure that our immunity is not bombarded by messages designed to confuse them and discourage them to vote. host: what is mall information? guest: the worst con, like we canceled election day today, or polling places are closed on

tuesdays this year because of different circumstances in the community, you have to go on wednesday. that would be true mal information. host: here is david. caller: thank you for taking my call. thanks as always to c-span. if you questions before i jump in, the first one is about latinos voting as a bloc. if you can comment on -- in the coming years and how folks should be messaging those communities accordingly. i was wondering if you have any comments on that. another one is how the data is gathered. i work for the census a little while, and i remember confusing whether there was -- confusion whether there was race or ethnicity. big data, if the public should be advocating for data changes that would clarify. lastly, the position on local and state initiatives to allow noncitizens to vote.

thanks. host: thanks for the question. guest: let me work backwards to our position in the naleo educational fund is voting is for united states citizens, and that is why we work every civil day to help lawful immigrants apply for and become u.s. citizens. our founder had a vision when he started the naleo educational fund of helping immigrants from mexico and central america who have come to this country, helping them on the road to clemency, if they are illegal, and they -- if they are not if they are legal, helping them obtain a green card. going on for 45 years, i think we have helped more than a quarter million lawful permanent residents become united states

citizens, so they can have full voting powers, full voting rights in this country. now, with regard to the census, something that i spend a lot of time thinking about, i was just really honored a few weeks ago to be named to a brand-new advisory committee at the census bureau, the 2030 committee, and it was established by the census bureau to get advice from experts around the country on how to prepare for and diplomat the 2030 census -- and implement the 2030 census. i was asked to share that committee. i will be working quite a bit to try to help the census bureau get it right in 2030, and making sure that not only do we count everybody, so we have an accurate count, we also want to make sure we have the right characteristics of the population collected as well, which is one of the reasons why we applauded the recent decision by the office of management and

budget, omb, that decided to modernize the way we asked everybody in the country have a identify themselves, by race and ethnicity, because the way it was asked previously was very confusing. we did not get complete and accurate data on the racial and ethnic background of latinos we are hoping this new approach of a single question that asks people to identify their race and/or ethnicity, because they are two separate things, race and ethnicity are come about people identify sometimes only by their race, only by your ethnicity, or if it is more than one category, and that is fine could we should give people the opportunity to self identify themselves as they see themselves, and we are hoping that the new approach at the census bureau will be using for the 2030 census will give us, again, more accurate data on the characteristics. host: just after 9:45 on the

east coast. about 15 minutes left in this conversation with arturo vargas. i did want to let you know that going on right now over on c-span2, a discussion on priorities for nato ahead of its 2024 summit. that is with the atlantic council featuring u.s. investors nato julianne smith -- ambassador to nato julianne smith. come out at 10:00 here on c-span, the reverend william barber and others will talk about plans for the poor people's campaign march on washington set for late june, the discussions were planning on that here on c-span, or you can watch on c-span.org, and a free c-span now app. but this discussion, again, for about another 10 or 15 minutes. lewis is waiting in salisbury, north carolina, democrat. you are on with arturo vargas. caller: hi. top of the morning to you guys. i just heard a gentle man who

called on the hispanic line, and he said he is going with trump and all that. a kind of behooves me to hear a lot of hispanics, some of them saying that they are going with trump, when trump has called you guys rapists, murderers, and all that other stuff that he said. now i want to ask this question. why did the head of the proud boys, as a hispanic, is it that some hispanics is trying to come i guess, you know, flock with the birds, because they are almost the same color? do they know that they are white people wore black people or they've got their own little group, but they still mix in with intellectuals? host: that is lewis. mr. vargas. guest: one thing to recognizes there is a great diversity of

perspectives within the latino community, and in fact, one of the earlier callers was asking about, do latinos vote as a bloc? is there a single latino vote? and there isn't. there are differences in terms of the way latino voters show up at the polls, based on their own personal experiences. if they are children of immigrants or immigrants themselves that have naturalized, or whether the families have been here for 10, 12 generations, whether they live in a community that has experienced certain historical factors that influence their politics, which you would say like florida or new york or texas or california, where we seen differences of specific situations influence the latino electorate and that space. the california vote is different than texas, arizona, nevada, and this is why we keep saying that

the campaigns for canada's really do need to listen to latino voters, don't assume that if you take a campaign message, you translate it into spanish, that you are done. no! it is probably the worst way to try the campaign among latino voters. it is hard work, but, you know, our political system can tend to be lazy. candidates are campaign and up campaigning only among the likeliest of voters, those voters who vote in every single election. they are the ones who get the phone calls, the knocks on the door, they are the ones who feel like their votes are really being asked for. and then they ignore people who don't vote in every election and

create this cycle of, what is the point of voting if nobody cares about me or my history? in the candidates are like, why should i care about those voters, they are not voters, they don't vote, not going to spend my resources talking to them, and we create a situation where some people actually do feel like the political system does not work for them, which is what we and the naleo educational fund are trying to work against, to make sure everybody feels like their vote is precious. host: younger voters and first-time voters, often we have conversations about those voters feeling overlooked or their issues are not being talked about. i wonder what your stats about eligible voters, latino eligible voters in 2024 tells you about young latino eligible voters. guest: one thing to keep in mind, overall, latinos are a much younger population, our

median age is much lower than the young hispanic white -- non-hispanic white population, the african-american, or even asian american median age, meaning a much larger segment of our voting population is younger than other population groups. so issues that affect youth, issues that affect young voters and what is happening in the country today, in which young voters are being pulled into different issues, probably will be affecting latinos, young voters, as much as all young voters in the country, and may have a disproportionate effect on our electorate overall, given that we have a much larger segment of our voters in that youthful category. we try to make sure that when latinos come of age, and u.s. citizens turned 18 years of age, that they understand the importance of registering to vote and casting that ballot. i remember when i voted for the first time, when i was in

college, and it was a big moment for me. i always try to make sure i never missed an election sense, because it is so important for everybody to understand that voting in this country is not about a single election, it is about voting over the long-term and making sure you are invested in the stakeholders in our political system. and that is the kind of culture of participation that we want to promote in the naleo educational fund. host: a few minutes left here. this is o'dallas out of crystal river, florida. caller: good morning. yes, i wasn't going to call, but i heard the questioning as to why a hispanic, latino voter would be voting for trump. it is, you know, to me, it is very clear that people want to just a, oh, you are spanish, you

are automatically a democrat. "i'm going to vote for president trump." "why?" the free-for-all provided is crazy. people are coming into the country, they are letting everybody in, it's like free health care, free food cards, free housing, free schooling. i've been here my entire life. i've got nothing for free. nothing! i worked my entire adult life. to me, it is crazy what is happening here, and everyone seems to kind of, like, how do you let millions and millions of people in, taxpayer money, and they that is ok? i do not get it. it angers me very much that this is happening. host: mr. vargas. guest: well, i think that caller

actually represents a sentiment by many latino voters and non-latino voters in the country have today. we have seen issues of immigration, what is happening at the border, with the migrant crisis, having an impact on how people are interpreting politics today commend this is one of those issues that i think is going to be rising to the top of priorities for the american electorate in this election, so i think that voter is experiencing what many voters in this country are experiencing. host: to ed in ohio, republican. good morning. caller: good morning. you know, this guy you have online right now, kudos to him. a plus. latinos, you know, that is our country today, they put everybody in boxes. latinos want what is best for american, like we all do, whether you are black, white. i'm italian and german, ok?

i'm just in texas come on contract united 30 years of military. many of the latinos that came into the military, your name it, you know what they all dead? they got here, they defended this country, they believe in a family, a two-parent family. most of them are christians, if not christians, they are catholic, as a matter of fact. almost totally against what the government has gone to, the far left today, they want secular families. i'm a hard worker. i lost my father at 14. when mother worked two jobs. i never complained to my mother did it. we did it on our own. i'm 65 this year. i was just in brownsville. he knows where that is at in texas, do you not? that is on thetip. i have a big job down there to go back to.

latinos want everything that is best for the america, and the senses, the problem with the open borders, democrats are legalizing, and they will not take for granted the hispanic vote anymore. they are not going to be lapdogs. they want what is best for everybody. i know so many, i have friends that i met in texas, 100% hispanic, guys that i went to school with. host: you bring up a lot of issues, and i'm running real short on time you want to get arturo vargas a chance to respond to some of them. guest: the real issue here is we have a latino population in the united states that is able to succeed economically and socially an live the american dream. latinos are 25% of the american

population. one in five is latino background, one and four of america's children is a latino. let's make sure we are preparing them for the workforce of tomorrow, for leadership roles of tomorrow, that is what we do at the naleo educational fund. we want to make sure that the latino population is able to thrive in the united states, lived the american dream. that is why we want latinos today to consistently participate in american politics, by voting, by having a voice, by not taking your right to vote for granted, and making sure that everybody has the ability to cast an informed ballot without being in any way discouraged or confused about the processes. we want to make sure that our democracy works for everybody, and if it works for latinos, it will work for everybody. host: arturo vargas is the ceo of the naleo educational fund,

ceo of the national association of latino elected and appointed officials, naleo educational fund. guest: thank you for having me. host: we will be back here tomorrow, 7:00 a.m., 4:00 a.m. pacific. now we take you to the poor people's campaign, the march for washington, the reverend barber is expected to speak at that meeting. that mark for washington planned later. we will see you back here tomorrow morning, though, on the "washington journal." [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2024] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] >> good morning. how is everybody? good. it is so good to see you. can we kind of saturate the room a little bit with