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coming up in the second hour of this show , join live coverage of the white house correspondents dinner, hosted by an sl comedian, colin jost. tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc, streaming on peacock. are you ready for nerd prom coverage? >> i'm here in new york , i drew the short straw this week, so unfortunately i have to work it, but it looks like you'll be heading over there to have some fun. >> i mean i hope it's fun. >> try not to sleep during the boring parts. >> yeah, i don't think it's going to be boring at all tonight. >> that's true. enjoy the rest of your evening. >>> as jonathan mentioned our special coverage of the white house correspondents dinner takes off at 8:00 p.m. please stick around. we will have extensive coverage. on this hour, we have two pivotal events testing the bedrock of our constitution, threats to first amendment rights, and to the rule of law. >>> also tonight from new york to arizona we break down donald trump's head spinning week of legal drama including outrageous arguments his legal team made to the supreme court. >>> marjorie taylor gr
coming up in the second hour of this show , join live coverage of the white house correspondents dinner, hosted by an sl comedian, colin jost. tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc, streaming on peacock. are you ready for nerd prom coverage? >> i'm here in new york , i drew the short straw this week, so unfortunately i have to work it, but it looks like you'll be heading over there to have some fun. >> i mean i hope it's fun. >> try not to sleep during the boring...
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speaker mike johnson, enter the divide. >>> and punchlines set for tonight's white house correspondent dinner. more on what it's like to write those jokes and which ones work best. i'm jonathan capehart in a tux, and this is the saturday show. ♪ >>> i am all dolled up in my brand-new tuxedo for tonight's white house correspondents dinner, where donald trump will no doubt be roasted for his legal troubles. but, as we joke about his courtroom based campaign, trump's threat to democracy remains very real. and this week we saw evidence of that in none other than the supreme court. trump's immunity hearing before the nine justices is raising alarm bells in legal and political circles. not only does it show just how far the four times indicted on 88 counts the former president will go to avoid accountability for attempting to overturn a free and fair election, the hearing also exposed how some justices appeared willing to consider partial immunity so that future presidents could make tough their decisions without fear of prosecution. case in point, trump's lawyer, arguing, again, that the
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a call with the white house. what do you think the jury took from all of that? >> well, i think that the jury can very easily take the fact that this was an organized scheme. this wasn't just the national enquirer, for example, acting on its own, buying stories that they just didn't want published in competitive -- in competitor's news publications, they were doing this for the purpose, for donald trump, to give him a benefit, a presidential benefit, a campaign benefit that. is what directly runs afoul of new york state and federal law. and that is what the prosecution has to prove in this case. so again, they were both very critical witnesses. i think that you'll see other witnesses like hope hicks, like michael cohen just put on additional layers in filling out this picture of exactly how the scheme played out. >> now, pivoting right here to washington, as you heard me discuss with congressman thompson, the supreme court's conservative justices, many of whom were nominated by trump, appeared to at least conside
a call with the white house. what do you think the jury took from all of that? >> well, i think that the jury can very easily take the fact that this was an organized scheme. this wasn't just the national enquirer, for example, acting on its own, buying stories that they just didn't want published in competitive -- in competitor's news publications, they were doing this for the purpose, for donald trump, to give him a benefit, a presidential benefit, a campaign benefit that. is what...
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was at the defendant's table with the boris epshteyn, a veteran of the white house and campaign, who has become central to president donald 's activities since 2020. he was in court with the president donald as you see here come along with the lead defense counsel , just as he was at the defense table at that first new work arraignment. he has been quarterbacking for and has led many different efforts throughout 2020 , attacking those election results that showed lost. we have been reporting on those efforts for years , including contrary to not just january 6th violence, but a host of other plots over those -- we have pressed epstein on his role in those efforts, as well as his legal views, which are relevant as he is involved in all this. here we are in this extremely busy week as he is there. you can see him working on his phone with the lead counsel, trying to help stay out of a new york prison. however, what we can tell you is -- with all this news you may have missed, epshteyn joined the ranks of criminal lawyers indicting him for a lector -- election fraud. >> boris epshteyn h
was at the defendant's table with the boris epshteyn, a veteran of the white house and campaign, who has become central to president donald 's activities since 2020. he was in court with the president donald as you see here come along with the lead defense counsel , just as he was at the defense table at that first new work arraignment. he has been quarterbacking for and has led many different efforts throughout 2020 , attacking those election results that showed lost. we have been reporting on...
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house is trying to perpetuate. it is a tricky calculus but my bets would be that they would absolutely debate probably on a fairly traditional setting or timeframe after the debates and before the election but i do not think will happen anytime soon. >> trump seems eager to debate biden but privately, where do you think his team is on this and given biden's prior stance and the stance of his supporters that it is beneath him to debate him, should president biden avoid debating? >> i two thoughts about this, one is that there playing a game of chicken. i don't think either of them really want to debate and the person who says they won't debate, it probably ends up benefiting the other person, right? the person who seems willing to debate will probably benefit. also think it is important to remember that there are lots of social science studies that say that debates don't matter and that people tend to walk into them or watch them and come down on the side that they have already come down on. it is confirmation bias.
house is trying to perpetuate. it is a tricky calculus but my bets would be that they would absolutely debate probably on a fairly traditional setting or timeframe after the debates and before the election but i do not think will happen anytime soon. >> trump seems eager to debate biden but privately, where do you think his team is on this and given biden's prior stance and the stance of his supporters that it is beneath him to debate him, should president biden avoid debating? >> i...
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you were in the white house when trump won. what can you tell us about how far and wide trump's alleged valiance as were known amongst staffers? and was there any direction on how folks should respond publicly, to the allegations? >> well, you know, listen, honestly, it was never talked about. was there an undercurrent that trump had dalliances? yes, there definitely was. i think he did a good job, frankly, of keeping that in a closed loop of a few people. i think the imposition on hope hicks and sarah huckabee sanders is sad for them, because both of those people are really good people, and this is what donald trump does to people. he puts them in disloyalty trap. so, both of those people have high morals and they are good standing people, and then trump forces his nonsense onto them, and now they have a loyalty test, in terms of dealing with what he wants them to do. obviously, this is what happened to michael cohen. so, one thing mr. trump is very, very good at, alex, is moving the goal post on people. i think what was most
you were in the white house when trump won. what can you tell us about how far and wide trump's alleged valiance as were known amongst staffers? and was there any direction on how folks should respond publicly, to the allegations? >> well, you know, listen, honestly, it was never talked about. was there an undercurrent that trump had dalliances? yes, there definitely was. i think he did a good job, frankly, of keeping that in a closed loop of a few people. i think the imposition on hope...
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chief white house correspondent for the new york times and co- author of the divider, trump and the white house 2017 to 2020. peter, this is the second time this week we've gotten hostas video -- hostage video from hamas. >> i think they're trying to raise the pressure on israel in terms of continuing the negotiations over whether there should be a cease-fire in exchange for a hostage release. we've had the nine estates playing a role of the egyptians and -- on such a deal. as of this week, the by the ministration says israel has actually accepted the u.s. brokered plan for an exchange of 40 hostages for 6 weeks of cease-fire. it is hamas that has a -- refused to agree to that. it's personally been obstructing any kind of deal. but by releasing these videos, they are trying to raise the pressure on benjamin netanyahu, galvanize the public who is very concerned about these hostages. and it is a tactic that has had some success. >> do you think there is also because there's been tremendous question about proof of life. to engage in negotiations, you have to know there are still hostages ali
chief white house correspondent for the new york times and co- author of the divider, trump and the white house 2017 to 2020. peter, this is the second time this week we've gotten hostas video -- hostage video from hamas. >> i think they're trying to raise the pressure on israel in terms of continuing the negotiations over whether there should be a cease-fire in exchange for a hostage release. we've had the nine estates playing a role of the egyptians and -- on such a deal. as of this...
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if trump wins the white house, the case may be thrown out altogether. while we await a decision, trump is not finding much sympathy from republican leadership with senate leader mitch mcconnell saying in an interview on thursday that he doesn't think presidents should be immune from criminal prosecution for actions taken while in office. joining me now is joyce vance, former u.s. attorney in alabama, and received legal analyst and the cohost of the sisters, podcast and hugo lowell, political investigations reporter at "the guardian." my friends, thanks for being here. it is a two block free-for-all. i'm going to start with you, joyce. let's talk in detail. i think this is important for our viewers to understand. if this case gets reminded back to the judge, which a lot of us believe it's probably going to be the happy medium between the conservatives on the supreme court and the liberal judges, let's talk about what that remand analysis will look like. what would judge chutkan do to be able to determine what was an official act, that has immunity, and a
if trump wins the white house, the case may be thrown out altogether. while we await a decision, trump is not finding much sympathy from republican leadership with senate leader mitch mcconnell saying in an interview on thursday that he doesn't think presidents should be immune from criminal prosecution for actions taken while in office. joining me now is joyce vance, former u.s. attorney in alabama, and received legal analyst and the cohost of the sisters, podcast and hugo lowell, political...
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house. that plan is reportedly part of a roughly 10 page document that outlines his policy vision for the fed. among the proposed provisions in the document is one that if elected would make trump an acting federal reserve board member who would be consulted on interest rate decisions. the journal also said that according to people familiar with the matter the policies would give trump quote the aught toy oust jerome powell as fed chair before his four year term ends in 2026. in fact quote, some of the former president's advisors have discussed requiring that candidates for fed chair privately agree to consult informally with trump on the central bank's decisions. the wall street journal was unable to determine whether donald trump is aware of or signed off on this plan. after a quick break i will discuss this with diane, the chief economist for kpmg. h diane, the chief economist for kpmg ok y'all we got ten orders coming in.. big orders! starting a business is never easy, but starting it ei
house. that plan is reportedly part of a roughly 10 page document that outlines his policy vision for the fed. among the proposed provisions in the document is one that if elected would make trump an acting federal reserve board member who would be consulted on interest rate decisions. the journal also said that according to people familiar with the matter the policies would give trump quote the aught toy oust jerome powell as fed chair before his four year term ends in 2026. in fact quote,...
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msnbc will have special coverage of the white house correspondents dinner. we will have special coverage starting at 8:00 p.m. on msnbc and streaming on peacock. we'll be right back. aren, the joy oft. sara federico: at st. jude, we don't care who cures cancer. we just need to advance the cure. it's a bold initiative to try and bump cure rates all around the world, but we should. it is our commitment. we need to do this. oh... stuffed up again? so congested! you need sinex saline from vicks. just sinex, breathe, ahhhh! what is — wow! sinex. breathe. ahhhhhh! >>> that does it for "the weekend" this saturday morning. thank you to eugene daniels for sitting and for us today. we will see you back here tomorrow at 8:00 a.m. eastern. we will talk about president biden's re-election action -- efforts. just want to address the elephant in the room. >> i am the only guy in new york right now. apparently you are all there for some party. this is a much larger bottle than the one you had. let's just see how this works.
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white house counsel advices the president. there is not -- this is not a situation where they are not protections for the president of the country and the vice president when they make decisions related to the national security. that's not what is happening here. >> one of the interesting things about mcconnell in his place in all this is when they were trying to impeach president trump the second time, for this, he said that you don't need to impeach him the criminal courts will handle this. the idea and now what trump's lawyers are saying is he had to be impeached to be a crime so it's back and forth and convicted. it's back and forth between that and mitch mcconnell saying what he said just now but he is a big player and it's good welker has him. >> he is the player. mitch mcconnell had he understood the assignment we wouldn't have the conversation. >> he understood the assignment but didn't feel like doing it. >> well. >>> ahead, folks, we will continue to talk about the supreme court because they heard a lot of case this
white house counsel advices the president. there is not -- this is not a situation where they are not protections for the president of the country and the vice president when they make decisions related to the national security. that's not what is happening here. >> one of the interesting things about mcconnell in his place in all this is when they were trying to impeach president trump the second time, for this, he said that you don't need to impeach him the criminal courts will handle...
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those aids include white house chief of staff, mark meadows, rudy giuliani, jenna ellis, john eastman, christina bob, trump campaign official board, epstein, and former campaign and white house official, mike roman. trump was not charged, but is described as an unindicted co- conspirator 1. it marks a significant step forward in an investigation that has spanned more than a year. here is arizona's attorney general, chris mays. >> i understand, for some of you today it didn't come fast enough. and i know i will be criticized for others for conducting this investigation at all. but as i have stated before and will say here again today, i will not allow american democracy to be undermined. it is too important. >> arizona now becomes the fourth state to file criminal charges against the so-called fake electors that sought to undermine president biden's victory over trump. so, joe, we saw the video there. they also signed a fake certificate that they posted to social media. i mean, they were breaking the law, pretending they were the state's electors when they weren't, because joe biden ha
those aids include white house chief of staff, mark meadows, rudy giuliani, jenna ellis, john eastman, christina bob, trump campaign official board, epstein, and former campaign and white house official, mike roman. trump was not charged, but is described as an unindicted co- conspirator 1. it marks a significant step forward in an investigation that has spanned more than a year. here is arizona's attorney general, chris mays. >> i understand, for some of you today it didn't come fast...
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house. security is that of fort knox, also that maga will not be able to attend this trial." that's a lie, no one is preventing any member of the public from coming to trial. the two tourists from alaska took time out of their vacation to sit in the courtroom after seeing the play "an enemy of the people" on broadway. if any of the 74 million people who voted for trump wanted to come, they could have. donald trump would rather lie than admit that his supporters and his family are not showing up. had a they showed up, this is what they would have heard in court today as prosecutors called three witnesses to the stand. witness, david pecker, largely stood his ground despite trump's legal team attempting to undermine his testimony by claiming the deals to bury stories like karen mcdougal and stormy daniels were standard operating procedure. the second witness, donald trump's former executive assistant, monograph, provided testimony that she entered karen mcdougal's and stormy daniels contact in
house. security is that of fort knox, also that maga will not be able to attend this trial." that's a lie, no one is preventing any member of the public from coming to trial. the two tourists from alaska took time out of their vacation to sit in the courtroom after seeing the play "an enemy of the people" on broadway. if any of the 74 million people who voted for trump wanted to come, they could have. donald trump would rather lie than admit that his supporters and his family are...
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it was all part of a deliberate process to help trump get to the white house. >> let me read just a little bit of this. this is when bove is questioning -- this is about pecker's testimony that cohen had told him jeff sessions is the attorney general. he's in donald trump's pocket. bove then asked whether that incident is among those that colored his view that cohen is prone to exaggeration? pecker said yes. during redirect, pecker is asked about average payments when they do catch and kill stories. he said you testified on cross that arnold schwarzenegger announced his candidacy for governor and afterwards some 30 to 40 women came forward and you told mr. bove you paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to kill those stories. pecker, yes. what was the average of those payments? pecker, the largest was $20,000, the others were up to $2,000. just the doorman got $30,000. it's different degrees. >> totally different degrees. you're looking at this giant six-figure payments to macdougal and to daniels. it's a totally different ball game. >> also, he didn't admit to campaign finance violations a
it was all part of a deliberate process to help trump get to the white house. >> let me read just a little bit of this. this is when bove is questioning -- this is about pecker's testimony that cohen had told him jeff sessions is the attorney general. he's in donald trump's pocket. bove then asked whether that incident is among those that colored his view that cohen is prone to exaggeration? pecker said yes. during redirect, pecker is asked about average payments when they do catch and...
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house, and campaign who has become central to trump's activities since 2020. he was in court with trump as you see there along with the lead defense counsel two days in a row just as he was at the defense table at that first new york arraignment. his work quarterbacking for trump came after he joined and led many efforts throughout 2020 attacking those election results that showed trump lost. we've been reporting on those efforts for years including how contrary to the initial impression they involved not just mainly january 6th violence but a host of other plots over those months and paperwork and elector fraud. we've pressed epstein on his role in those efforts as well as his legal views which, of course, are relevant as he is involved in all of this. and now here we are in this extremely busy week as he is there, you see him working on his phone with the lead counsel trying to help trump stay out of the new york prison, but what we can tell you as part of our special and with all of this news, you may have missed it, for the very first time epstein joined t
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"deadline: white house" starts right now. >>> hi, everyone. happy friday. we're monitoring the ongoing criminal trial of donald trump. we're on day iegt eight of of this election interference hush money trial. today brought the introduction of websites number two and three for the prosecution. right this moment, the prosecution is questioning gary farro. he was michael cohen's banker at first republic bank. he set up the home equity line of credit through which michael cohen paid stormy and was reimbursed by donald trump. it's the financial transaction that's at the heart of all of this. the second witness was a woman by the name of rona graph. you may not know the name, but she was in the room for jirs about everything. she's donald trump's long-time assistant. she worked at the trump organization for 34 years. she also noted that she was on the stand because she had been subpoenaed and that the trump organization is paying for her attorneys. in a very brief line of questioning from the prosecution, alvin bragg's team had her authenticate e-mails and conta
"deadline: white house" starts right now. >>> hi, everyone. happy friday. we're monitoring the ongoing criminal trial of donald trump. we're on day iegt eight of of this election interference hush money trial. today brought the introduction of websites number two and three for the prosecution. right this moment, the prosecution is questioning gary farro. he was michael cohen's banker at first republic bank. he set up the home equity line of credit through which michael cohen...
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white house. this is notable that she is confirming that she did keep documents and phone numbers as well as an address for karen mcdougal and phone number for stormy daniels as part of her records on behalf of donald trump. >> give us a reminder, who exactly is rhona graff. >> reporter: rhona graff worked for 34 years as executive assistant, close assistant as trump tower as part of the trump organization. up until she left the post in april of 2021. we can expect the prosecution to ask her the extent to which she maintained close relations with donald trump as well as white house staff through the course of his presidency. there could be revealing information, or it could be a matter of using her to confirm the fact that some of the records and e-mails she's able to confirm the authenticity of because donald trump, as we know, is not somebody who was engaged in text messages or e-mailing himself during that time period. >> and the prosecution has admitted a ton of documents into exhibits, and th
white house. this is notable that she is confirming that she did keep documents and phone numbers as well as an address for karen mcdougal and phone number for stormy daniels as part of her records on behalf of donald trump. >> give us a reminder, who exactly is rhona graff. >> reporter: rhona graff worked for 34 years as executive assistant, close assistant as trump tower as part of the trump organization. up until she left the post in april of 2021. we can expect the prosecution...
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pecker says hope hicks, he says he discussed the mcdougal agreement with her, along with white house aide and arkansas governor, sarah huckabee sanders, this would have been in the spring of 2018, well after donald trump had taken office. what's the relevance, if any, as you see it, of the fact that this was happening after trump had been elected? >> yeah, so we know that hope hick was involved in these calls with trump and ami. she's going to be a super important witness because she doesn't have cohen's baggage, michael cohen's baggage. it's the opposite. hope hicks was team trump all the way during the period that's the subject of this indictment. so it makes her especially credible. she's going to be able to connect the hush money payments with trump's presidential ambitions. that's what prosecution also needed david pecker to do. to link the catch and kill agreement to the campaign, and that's exactly what he did. so, again, the defense tried to attack pecker's credibility in order to testify. they didn't score big points, and they're not going to be able to go there with hope hi
pecker says hope hicks, he says he discussed the mcdougal agreement with her, along with white house aide and arkansas governor, sarah huckabee sanders, this would have been in the spring of 2018, well after donald trump had taken office. what's the relevance, if any, as you see it, of the fact that this was happening after trump had been elected? >> yeah, so we know that hope hick was involved in these calls with trump and ami. she's going to be a super important witness because she...
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they've seen what's happened to those who worked in his previous campaigns, in his previous white house, and those that are making the commitment to him now have a clear understanding that to cross him would be the end of their political relevance to donald trump. >> including one who's in court with him now, we are told, who just yesterday was indicted in arizona, but that's another story for another day. so david, coming out of court yesterday, this was donald trump's review of the trial again yesterday. >> today was breathtaking that this room you saw what went on, it was breathtaking and amazing testimony. this is a trial that should not have ever happened. this is a case that should never have been filed, and it was really an incredible -- an incredible day. >> amazing testimony. the only testimony was david pecker's, and given that most analysts believe it set up the prosecution's case well, you wonder what he was so pleased about. is it just that david pecker said at the very end of the day in direct testimony that he was a mentor and a friend? >> yeah, chris, i see that differen
they've seen what's happened to those who worked in his previous campaigns, in his previous white house, and those that are making the commitment to him now have a clear understanding that to cross him would be the end of their political relevance to donald trump. >> including one who's in court with him now, we are told, who just yesterday was indicted in arizona, but that's another story for another day. so david, coming out of court yesterday, this was donald trump's review of the...
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house, covered previous white houses, maybe has a policy expertise, can do a very rigorous interview, really pressing the president on policy, on contradictions, on tough and controversial issues he may not want to talk about. if you want to make sure that things are safe, it's a much safer decision to go to an outlet or a venue or medium you think will be more friendly to your guy. i would note it does create a big vacuum. there are a lot of people who get their news from these mainstream organizations. the white house believes there are a number of people who are turning to podcasts and tiktok influencers. there's more effective ways to get the message out. >> is the white house frustrated that there's so much focus on donald trump's trial, whether it's positive or negative? that's crowding out coverage that would be paid to his campaigning, president biden's campaigning and some of the policy initiatives he is announcing. >> certainly, they would like more attention to the achievements they believe the president has not got enough credit for, including the infrastructure package.
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house. >> john, you were asked to at one point defend trump in these legal troubles that he is embroiled in right now. as you see this hush money trial unfold, do you have any regrets in turning him down? >> well, i was just not able to do it at the time. so, i don't look back. but sorry to keep coming back to michael cohen, but he's a defense lawyer's dream to examine. i would love to jump in, in my dreams, and cross-examine michael cohen. i don't have any regrets. i think now trump has good lawyers. and i think what -- the biggest challenge is the whole world is watching this case. and i think we all want is for trump to get a fair trial, no matter what we think of him. if he gets a fair trial, if he's found guilty, he'll be held accountable. if he's found not guilty, earning way our system works. >> he's trying to campaign, even though he's stuck inside the courtroom, he's talking about the possibility of having a big rally at madison square garden. he does have the day off on wednesdays. typically, for this court. what do you think of that strategy, richard? >> he talked about a rall
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i was selected as a white house fellow. we had a big dance at the white house. i danced with president johnson and two days later the new republic finally published this piece with their title how to remove lyndon johnson in 1968. i was certain he was going to kick me out of the program. he finally said bring her down here for a year, and if i can't win her over, no one can. that was my first involvement in the anti-war protests. >> doris, hi, it's peter baker. congratulations on the new book. i'm curious what you see in terms of the parallel between lbj and these protesters and the young people of his era and president biden today and the young people we're seeing in columbia and all these other colleges. is there a parallel there or lessons for the current president? >> well, i think the most important thing is that with the vietnam protest, there was a clear sense of mission to stop the bombing and to begin negotiating a peace, and what you saw happening among the overwhelming majority of students who joined the mccarthy campaign in new hampshire was that the
i was selected as a white house fellow. we had a big dance at the white house. i danced with president johnson and two days later the new republic finally published this piece with their title how to remove lyndon johnson in 1968. i was certain he was going to kick me out of the program. he finally said bring her down here for a year, and if i can't win her over, no one can. that was my first involvement in the anti-war protests. >> doris, hi, it's peter baker. congratulations on the new...
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but, as republican lawmakers and a lot of folks inside the white house and the democratic party are aware of, is that this actually sort of continues on that theme of the weaponization of the dollar. why would another foreign central bank park their money in u.s. dollars if there is a threat of it being con fis skate confiscated? >> it could have global ramifications. we heard jake sullivan say biden is going to talk this over with other g-7 leaders. if they jump, they jump together. do you think they go for it? >> i think so, but it is really hard to say whether the u.s. can really lead on this issue. it is interesting, though, right? we're seeing that europe has a little more power over this, whereas, the u.s. is used to being able to call the shots. putin diversified away from the dollar and parked money more in euros, so europe can call the shots. this can happen more if the world moves away from the dollar. >> is this something we could see european leaders similarly try to do? >> absolutely. they also need a change of law or regulations in order to take the euros that the russian ce
but, as republican lawmakers and a lot of folks inside the white house and the democratic party are aware of, is that this actually sort of continues on that theme of the weaponization of the dollar. why would another foreign central bank park their money in u.s. dollars if there is a threat of it being con fis skate confiscated? >> it could have global ramifications. we heard jake sullivan say biden is going to talk this over with other g-7 leaders. if they jump, they jump together. do...
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my wife worked at the obama white house which is the opposite of this. everything is like so lawyered and everyone's checking with the lawyers about everything. we're operating in a very different world, and there's some part of me that felt like these are the fly by the seat of the pants operators. it's possible they didn't realize they weren't committing a crime. it seems possible they didn't know. this was pretty shocking to me that, like, there's expert advice. >> definitely a crime. >> don't do this. that seemed like a really big deal. >> i thought the d.a. got one more win out of this that isn't in all those details. they established that david pecker still likes donald trump. and that's a good thing because you have michael cohen and other people who very clearly have to be viewed with at least some questions about the personal animus that will come up on cross. here the jury was treated to a very simple fact, this guy this was transactional. he says nothing personal against him, just business. and that makes him a stronger witness against trump.
my wife worked at the obama white house which is the opposite of this. everything is like so lawyered and everyone's checking with the lawyers about everything. we're operating in a very different world, and there's some part of me that felt like these are the fly by the seat of the pants operators. it's possible they didn't realize they weren't committing a crime. it seems possible they didn't know. this was pretty shocking to me that, like, there's expert advice. >> definitely a crime....
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let's bring in our leadoff panel, peter baker and the chief white house responded for the new york times, marketers of stern, senior writer covering the court and law it's late, josh kirstein, legal affairs for political, and former u.s. attorney, joyce nancy spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. thank you for joining us. it was a huge legal day, so i want to start in d.c., with scotus. we, the three of us, we were all in the courtroom for arguments, so let's start first with your main takeaways, josh. >> i thought it had to be a dispiriting day for special counsel, jack smith. you saw, one after another, the members of the conservative majority on the court basically signal discomfort with his position and some degree of alignment with trump's claim that there should be at least some type of immunity or protection for a former president from criminal charges. i have a vivid memory of sitting there, and having each of those justices, justice kavanaugh, chief justice john roberts, and judge gorsuch, going one by one and making clear that they were not going to come out in this case the
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white house chief of staff, mark meadows, there was the white house counsel office, assertions of privilege, the vice president, the vice president's counsel, assertions of privileges. i single is out, because those are people who did testify to the grand jury, for the federal january 6th indictment brought by jack smith which will now be delayed. she is effectively suggesting that as a defendant, trump and his counsel know that testimony is and they must find it terrifying, if they want to make sure that the american people do not hear, before november. >> well, you know, that is speculation, obviously. trump knows what happened. it is true, we were stonewalled by some of those individuals, mark meadows, and others. i am sure that the prosecutor has more information than we were able to get. we know enough, from our investigation, to know that it was not a pretty picture, that the former president was at the center of a wide-ranging plot to overturn the election. when he failed in the various methods that he tried, the last effort was to use a mob to try to stop the certification of the el
white house chief of staff, mark meadows, there was the white house counsel office, assertions of privilege, the vice president, the vice president's counsel, assertions of privileges. i single is out, because those are people who did testify to the grand jury, for the federal january 6th indictment brought by jack smith which will now be delayed. she is effectively suggesting that as a defendant, trump and his counsel know that testimony is and they must find it terrifying, if they want to...
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with that, let's bring in our leadoff panel, peter baker, chief white house correspondent for the new york times. mark joseph stern, senior writer covering the courts and the law at slate. legal reporter for politico. and joyce vance, who spent 35 years as a federal prosecutor. thanks all of you for joining me this evening. it was a huge legal date, so i want to start in d.c. at scotus. the three of us were all in the courtroom today for arguments, so let's start first with your main takeaways. josh, i'm going to start with you. >> well, i thought it had to be a dispiriting day for special counsel jack smith. he saw one after another of the members of the conservative majority on the court basically signal discomfort with his position, and some degree of alignment with trump's claim that there should be at least some type of immunity or protection for a former president from criminal charges. i have a vivid memory of sitting there and having each of those justices i'm thinking of, just as matt cavanaugh, chief justice john roberts, and justice neil gorsuch, for example, go through one
with that, let's bring in our leadoff panel, peter baker, chief white house correspondent for the new york times. mark joseph stern, senior writer covering the courts and the law at slate. legal reporter for politico. and joyce vance, who spent 35 years as a federal prosecutor. thanks all of you for joining me this evening. it was a huge legal date, so i want to start in d.c. at scotus. the three of us were all in the courtroom today for arguments, so let's start first with your main takeaways....
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eric hirschman, lawyer in the white house, take the stand. it is at least a way, it is not a full trial but it is a hearing and that is a way at least to get some of the evidence before the public. >> andrew, do you agree with me that all nine justices, there wasn't a justice who said that a solution is an improper one? >> exactly. >> so, neil, there remains, though, when i listen to judge amy coney barrett, it also, there is also this other question, which is a certain amount of this is performative. you don't get the feeling that samuel alito is really looking for an answer that can change what he was thinking when he walked in there today. i don't mean to pick on him, it can happen with anyone of the justices at any time. >> you can pick on him. >> i have the feeling, i did have the feeling that justice amy coney barrett was listening to the information and did come in with ideas. she came in really certain that a bunch of things described in this indictment were private acts and she rattled them off to the employer and trump agreed with e
eric hirschman, lawyer in the white house, take the stand. it is at least a way, it is not a full trial but it is a hearing and that is a way at least to get some of the evidence before the public. >> andrew, do you agree with me that all nine justices, there wasn't a justice who said that a solution is an improper one? >> exactly. >> so, neil, there remains, though, when i listen to judge amy coney barrett, it also, there is also this other question, which is a certain amount...
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from rudy giuliani, the white house chief of staff, you name it. all of them including the 11 fake collectors in arizona are subject to criminal justice and everyone who did crimes for trump must face the criminal justice system. everyone, apparently according to the supreme court, but trump. they are monarchists. the idea that the founders of this country decided to exit a monarchy and created different monarchy here is insane. >> that is more of our recap of today's action in the united states supreme court and trump's new york courtroom, and had. lots more to get to. stay with us. to let in the lyte™. caplyta is proven to deliver significant relief across bipolar depression. unlike some medicines that only treat bipolar i, caplyta treats both bipolar i and ii depression. and in clinical trials, movement disorders and weight gain were not common. call your doctor about sudden mood changes, behaviors, or suicidal thoughts. antidepressants may increase these risks in young adults. elderly dementia patients have increased risk of death or stroke.
from rudy giuliani, the white house chief of staff, you name it. all of them including the 11 fake collectors in arizona are subject to criminal justice and everyone who did crimes for trump must face the criminal justice system. everyone, apparently according to the supreme court, but trump. they are monarchists. the idea that the founders of this country decided to exit a monarchy and created different monarchy here is insane. >> that is more of our recap of today's action in the united...
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>> at the white house where he goes to the white house for his dinner, and donald trump and david pecker are together. they're talking. there was this iconic photo that was shown of the two of them in the back, walking down a corridor. it's a black and white photo. david pecker said what they were talking about was karen mcdougal. and donald trump asked how she is. and david pecker said she's fine. she's quiet. >> yeah. talk about the david pecker/trump relationship. because when i was in court, i got the sense he reveres him. today he said he still considers him a friend. >> a friend and mentor. >> and mentor. >> and there's these interactions i keep watching in court as david pecker sort of exits through this trap door in the middle of the courtroom, he goes past where donald trump is sitting, and there's been some interactions where they have acknowledged each other and smiled together. it was a very close friendship, and it was a friendship -- >> and symbiotic. >> favors both ways. something i'm sort of really interested in here, and i was hoping we would get to today. at that dinner
>> at the white house where he goes to the white house for his dinner, and donald trump and david pecker are together. they're talking. there was this iconic photo that was shown of the two of them in the back, walking down a corridor. it's a black and white photo. david pecker said what they were talking about was karen mcdougal. and donald trump asked how she is. and david pecker said she's fine. she's quiet. >> yeah. talk about the david pecker/trump relationship. because when i...
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house have adhered to the law. it just i think highlights how abhorrent donald trump's behavior was during his presidency and maybe potentially if he is re-elected again, but i do believe the presidents i worked closely with, presidents clinton, bush 43 and president obama they were never chilled, as the expression was used today, never chilled by the lack of immunity. they recognized they had responsibility to carry out their authorities as president of the united states and also would be held accountable for it by the public, by the electorate, by the judicial system of the united states. therefore the presidents with integrity, honesty and take it seriously do not want to rely on blanket immunity that would give an individual like donald trump carte blanche to do whatever he would want under the preterks of national security. >> appreciate that. here was justice alito, a sound we haven't played tonight, about s.e.a.l. team six. >> one might argue that it isn't plausibly legal to argue s.e.a.l. team six, i don't
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"deadline: white house" starts right now. >>> hi, everyone. it's 4:00 in new york and it is all happening today. we are picking up our special coverage of the tangled legal web now being faced by the four times indicted ex-president donald trump today. a collision of two of his criminal cases with massive consequences, not just for the man, the party he leads, but also for the presidency. our country's democracy. the supreme court heard arguments this morning on trump's claim of presidential immunity leaving the fate and timing of the federal election interference trial, a big blank open question for now, but what is happening at this hour and what is certain is that the trial that could end up being the only criminal trial that ex-president faces before americans go to the polls again in 2024 is the one brought by alvin bragg over falsifying business records to cover up hush money to a porn star and keep that silent ahead of a national election. former "national enquirer" ceo david pecker is still on the stand and he's being cross examined by
"deadline: white house" starts right now. >>> hi, everyone. it's 4:00 in new york and it is all happening today. we are picking up our special coverage of the tangled legal web now being faced by the four times indicted ex-president donald trump today. a collision of two of his criminal cases with massive consequences, not just for the man, the party he leads, but also for the presidency. our country's democracy. the supreme court heard arguments this morning on trump's claim...
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house event, would that violate section 201c? the court offered a construction that it had to be for or because of an official act to avoid that problem. if there was such a well received understanding that presidents are not included in general federal criminal law, unless the president is specifically named, which he is not in section 201, justice scalia would have thought of that and some member of the court would have reacted and none did. >> all right. let me go on to ask about what you take the petitioner's position to be in this case. we had a lot of talk about drawing the lines. justice kavanaugh and gorsuch suggested we should think about another ruling and that within -- first, we have private versus official and then within official now we have something about core acts versus other acts as we try to figure out at what level the president is going to have immunity. i took the petitioner's argument in this case not to be inviting us to engage in that kind of analysis. i thought he was arguing that all official acts get
house event, would that violate section 201c? the court offered a construction that it had to be for or because of an official act to avoid that problem. if there was such a well received understanding that presidents are not included in general federal criminal law, unless the president is specifically named, which he is not in section 201, justice scalia would have thought of that and some member of the court would have reacted and none did. >> all right. let me go on to ask about what...
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former white house chief of staff mark meadows. rudy giuliani, jenna ellis, john eastman, christina bobb, trump campaign official boris epstein, and former white house official micro man. trump was not charged but described as unindicted co-conspirator one. it's an investigation that's spanned more than a year. here is arizona's attorney general, kris mayes. >> i know today didn't come fast enough, and i'll be criticized by others for conducting this investigation at all. as i've stated before and will say again today, i will not allow american democracy to be undermined. it's too important. >> arizona becomes the fourth state to file criminal charges against the so-called fake electors that sought to undermine president biden's victory over trump. joe, we saw the video there. they also signed a fake certificate that they posted to social media. i mean, they were breaking the law, pretending they were the state's electors when they weren't. joe biden had narrowly won, broadcasting exactly what they were doing, and now the bill has
former white house chief of staff mark meadows. rudy giuliani, jenna ellis, john eastman, christina bobb, trump campaign official boris epstein, and former white house official micro man. trump was not charged but described as unindicted co-conspirator one. it's an investigation that's spanned more than a year. here is arizona's attorney general, kris mayes. >> i know today didn't come fast enough, and i'll be criticized by others for conducting this investigation at all. as i've stated...
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the white house, interestingly enough, they don't seem to think that this is a major problem at this point. allies of the administration are saying, look, if you look at the polling, in fact, younger voters, the israeli/palestine conflict ranks fairly low in terms of their voting interest. is this a problem for the administration? could it balloon into a problem for the administration if this snowballs in the way you're talking about? >> election in november. convention in less than four months, democratic convention. if the conflict is in the state it is right now, if there are palestinians -- images every day of palestinians being dug up, starving, why would it change? there are external factors the administration cannot change here, and that's what it is reacting to. what the protesters demanded, and demands change from campus to campus, but they want a cease-fire and cessation of all military aid to israel, and they didn't get one. congress voted in the last few days. that's not going to happen. there is going to be continued military support for israel. no, the protests won't st
the white house, interestingly enough, they don't seem to think that this is a major problem at this point. allies of the administration are saying, look, if you look at the polling, in fact, younger voters, the israeli/palestine conflict ranks fairly low in terms of their voting interest. is this a problem for the administration? could it balloon into a problem for the administration if this snowballs in the way you're talking about? >> election in november. convention in less than four...
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house chief of of staff, all advising and representing trump in various election lawsuits and schemes along with trump campaign officials boris epstein and mike roman five of these seven people were also inidated for similar conduct in the state of georgia where jenna ellis has already pleaded guilty the 11 fake electors were part of a multi-state scheme to help former president trump overturn results of the 2020 election there are already prosecution of at least some of these fake electors in three of the seven states involved in that multi-state scheme involving georgia, michigan, and nevada. but tonight marks the first time that criminal charges are being brought in the state of arizona. >> we're here because justice depends an answer to the efforts for the defendants and other indicted coconspirators allegedly took to undermine the will of arizona's voters during the 2020 election. arizona's elec the people ofti arizona elected president biden. unwilling tobi accept this fact the defendants charged by the state grand jury allegedly schemed to prevent the lawful transfer of the pre
house chief of of staff, all advising and representing trump in various election lawsuits and schemes along with trump campaign officials boris epstein and mike roman five of these seven people were also inidated for similar conduct in the state of georgia where jenna ellis has already pleaded guilty the 11 fake electors were part of a multi-state scheme to help former president trump overturn results of the 2020 election there are already prosecution of at least some of these fake electors in...
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chesebro to write up to the white house. forest epstein then said, hey, can you replicate this in the other states? and that is what set mr. chesebro off, again, unindicted co-conspirator in a number for this indictment, i am certain, based on the allegations in the indictment, to working so closely with people like kelly ward and also attorneys in arizona, like jack, willing jack to make this happen in arizona. >> tom, when you worked on the jan. 6 a committee and helped draft that final report, did you think, when you are working on the committee, that there would be downstream effects of state criminal investigations happening after your committees work? >> you know, i think there should have been these downstream effects. the bottom line is is a conspiracy that cut across seven states, right? trump and his co-conspirators try to steal or nullify the electoral votes because they lost the popular vote, trump lost the popular vote in the states. this is now the third state, arizona is, where they brought criminal charges ag
chesebro to write up to the white house. forest epstein then said, hey, can you replicate this in the other states? and that is what set mr. chesebro off, again, unindicted co-conspirator in a number for this indictment, i am certain, based on the allegations in the indictment, to working so closely with people like kelly ward and also attorneys in arizona, like jack, willing jack to make this happen in arizona. >> tom, when you worked on the jan. 6 a committee and helped draft that final...
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house. that's the second point. i was struck by on page 44 of this indictment. eric hirschman seems to once again be very much an important witness in the case and he is on a text message where basically, he and a colleague are talking about how they are not going to sign off on this because he views this as a quote in the indictment, certifying illegal votes. certifying illegal votes is what he wrote. and he said someone else is going to have to sign it and he says rudy, boris, and jenna. and those names are actually the three of the people charged. >> tim, did you learn anything in this indictment? that you hadn't already had a pretty clear sense of in the january 6th investigation? >> a few details but not the big picture. the big picture has been clear for a while. as andrew said, this was a top down intentional part of the plan. the generation of these fake electors which becomes a predicate for vice president pence or for the supreme court or some entity to do something to prevent the
house. that's the second point. i was struck by on page 44 of this indictment. eric hirschman seems to once again be very much an important witness in the case and he is on a text message where basically, he and a colleague are talking about how they are not going to sign off on this because he views this as a quote in the indictment, certifying illegal votes. certifying illegal votes is what he wrote. and he said someone else is going to have to sign it and he says rudy, boris, and jenna. and...
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according to reporting from multiple outlets they are mark meadows, trump's former white house chief of staff. rudy giuliani, general in ellis, john eastman and christina bobb all representing donald trump in various post election lawsuits. along with trump campaign officials boris epstein and mike ronan. five of them were indicted for similar conduct in the state of georgia where jenna ellis has already pleaded guilty. they were part of a multistate scheme to help trump overturn the results of the 2020 election. and there are already prosecutions of some of these involved in that multistate scheme including georgia, michigan, and nevada. but tonight marks the first time that criminal charges are being brought in the state of arizona. >> we are here because justice demands an answer to the efforts of the defendants and other unindicted coconspirators allegedly took to undermine the will of arizona's voters during the 2020 presidential election. arizona's election was free and fair. the people of arizona elected president biden. unwilling to accept this fact, the defendants charged by
according to reporting from multiple outlets they are mark meadows, trump's former white house chief of staff. rudy giuliani, general in ellis, john eastman and christina bobb all representing donald trump in various post election lawsuits. along with trump campaign officials boris epstein and mike ronan. five of them were indicted for similar conduct in the state of georgia where jenna ellis has already pleaded guilty. they were part of a multistate scheme to help trump overturn the results of...
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i was struck by on page 44 of this indictment eric herschmann who was a white house counsel seems once again to be very much an important witness in the case and he is on a text message where basically he and a colleague are talking about how they aren't going to sign off on this because he views this as -- and this is a quote in the indictment -- certifying illegal votes, certifying illegal votes is what he wrote and he said someone else is going to have to sign it and he says, "rudy, boris, and jenna," and those names are actually three of the people who are charged or appear to be charged. so those are my quick takes of the charges here. >> tim, did you learn anything in this indictment that you hadn't already had a pretty clear sense of in the january 6th investigation? >> yeah, lawrence. a few details, but not the big picture. the big picture has been clear for a while. this was a top down plan which becomes essentially a predicate for vice president pence or the supreme court or some entity to do something to prevent the transfer of power. so there's some color. there's some deta
i was struck by on page 44 of this indictment eric herschmann who was a white house counsel seems once again to be very much an important witness in the case and he is on a text message where basically he and a colleague are talking about how they aren't going to sign off on this because he views this as -- and this is a quote in the indictment -- certifying illegal votes, certifying illegal votes is what he wrote and he said someone else is going to have to sign it and he says, "rudy,...
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according to reporting from multiple outlets, they are marked manos, trumps former white house chief of staff, rudy giuliani, jenna ellis, john eastman and christina bobb, all of whom were lawyers advising donald trump in various postelection lawsuits and schemes, along with trump campaign officials mike roman and boris epshteyn. five of these people were indicted for similar conduct in the state of georgia, where jenna ellis has pleaded guilty. the 11 fake electors were part of a multistate scheme to help donald trump overturned a result of the 2020 election. there are already prosecutions of at least some of these fake electors in three of the seven states involved in the multistate scheme, including georgia, michigan, and nevada. but, tonight marks the first time that criminal charges are being brought in the state of arizona. >> we are here because justice demands an answer to the efforts the defendants and other unindicted co-conspirators allegedly took to undermine the will of arizona's voters during the 2020 presidential election. arizona's election was free and fair. the peop
according to reporting from multiple outlets, they are marked manos, trumps former white house chief of staff, rudy giuliani, jenna ellis, john eastman and christina bobb, all of whom were lawyers advising donald trump in various postelection lawsuits and schemes, along with trump campaign officials mike roman and boris epshteyn. five of these people were indicted for similar conduct in the state of georgia, where jenna ellis has pleaded guilty. the 11 fake electors were part of a multistate...
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no-confidence in the orders coming down from the white house . we simply cannot defend our country this way. this is extremely dangerous to have a president, once again, who could order the military to commit crimes. president trump lawyers argued before the d.c. circuit -- to take out a political rival, he could not be prosecuted unless the house of representatives impeached him and two thirds of the senate convicted him. in other words, the sitting president can assassinate a rival with consent of one third of the senate. we cannot run a democracy this way. the court, i believe, will understand that. the justices do not want seal team six parked outside of the house every time they have a case involving the president of the united states. >> we should know, to your point, and obvious point i did not think of, the member of seal team six would be subject to criminal prosecution. because they would be committing a crime. -- it would only be the person that ordered that, the president, who would be insulated, which is ludicrous. are there things y
no-confidence in the orders coming down from the white house . we simply cannot defend our country this way. this is extremely dangerous to have a president, once again, who could order the military to commit crimes. president trump lawyers argued before the d.c. circuit -- to take out a political rival, he could not be prosecuted unless the house of representatives impeached him and two thirds of the senate convicted him. in other words, the sitting president can assassinate a rival with...
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those indicted include, former trump white house chief of staff mark meadows, attorneys rudy giuliani, jenna ellis, john eastman and christina bobb, a name we have not heard in these indictments before. top campaign adviser boris epstein and former campaign aide mike roman. all are accused of allegedly aiding an unsuccessful strategy to award the state's electoral votes to trump instead of biden after the 2020 election. your reaction to that, andrew weissmann? >> my reaction is -- i mean, first, you know, wow. that is quite the -- >> it's big. >> this is like rounding up the usual suspects. >> and throwing in christina bobb. >> christina bobb. >> boar sis epstein. what name is not there. obviously we have talked about donald trump and that issue. chesebro, he's cooperating. really cooperating. because it doesn't make sense that he would not be indicted. >> he's already indicted in georgia. so if you think about it, from his point of view, you might as well cooperate at this point. >> and the issue there it was unclear whether he was really fully cooperating. when he pled, it was sort
those indicted include, former trump white house chief of staff mark meadows, attorneys rudy giuliani, jenna ellis, john eastman and christina bobb, a name we have not heard in these indictments before. top campaign adviser boris epstein and former campaign aide mike roman. all are accused of allegedly aiding an unsuccessful strategy to award the state's electoral votes to trump instead of biden after the 2020 election. your reaction to that, andrew weissmann? >> my reaction is -- i mean,...
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house while he was running the country. that's not a crime, he argued. so that is a denial that anything criminal happened. now, these type of denials that i'm telling you are not the only options. the next defense they have, you've certainly heard about, and i want to be clear. you can also think of this as a factual defense, because they argue if anything bad did happen, then michael cohen did it. not defendant trump. if anything happened, cohen did it. now here is how that defense works as a counterattack, because they said, quote, unbeknownst to trump, in all the years that cohen worked for him, cohen was also a criminal. now notice that is a little different than just saying nothing happened. because if nothing bad happened, you wouldn't have to blame anyone, right? it's like are you saying nobody ate the cookies? are you saying somebody else ate the cookseys? as soon as you start saying somebody else ate the cookies, you're kind of admitting the cookies are gone, right? you don't have to call some other witness a crim
house while he was running the country. that's not a crime, he argued. so that is a denial that anything criminal happened. now, these type of denials that i'm telling you are not the only options. the next defense they have, you've certainly heard about, and i want to be clear. you can also think of this as a factual defense, because they argue if anything bad did happen, then michael cohen did it. not defendant trump. if anything happened, cohen did it. now here is how that defense works as a...
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who is going to be in the white house. next time. and that affects us in germany very much. >> tell me about the ptsd. >> well, you know, germany and america, it's always this -- i have friends who bitch about this country automatic the time, if i can say that. >> please. >> complain and find all the faults because you do everything right that we want to do, but you do it all wrong. but they can't wait to plan the next trip to new york. >> yeah. >> so it's always this back and forth. and when trump came into office, it sort of crystallized that. and it also this balance got totally out of whack. he brought up the ugly -- you talk about this on this show all the time. and it's you know, it's really people after 2020, people said okay, we need a break. it's like you're in a dysfunctional relationship. you can't stop. you don't know how to get out, but you suffer. and it was the same way with germany. we've been tied to you guys since world war ii. we liberated us, but we resent you for it. there are all these different layers. and then
who is going to be in the white house. next time. and that affects us in germany very much. >> tell me about the ptsd. >> well, you know, germany and america, it's always this -- i have friends who bitch about this country automatic the time, if i can say that. >> please. >> complain and find all the faults because you do everything right that we want to do, but you do it all wrong. but they can't wait to plan the next trip to new york. >> yeah. >> so it's...
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. >> and matthew, if you're running the biden campaign or if you're in the biden white house, why put him on any college campus right now? >> he can't run from it. i'm sorry, that was for matthew. can't run from it, right, math rue? >> that's right. this is the time of year you give commencement addresses, and this is an incredibly important issue. i actually believe joe biden is exactly where the majority of the country is which is support israel in their attempts to get rid of terrorism, and simultaneously express outrage and support of the innocent palestinians who are getting killed in this and try to confront benjamin netanyahu in the midst of this. but if the student haves a right -- students have a right to protest and say what they believe, then the president of the united states has the right and i would say responsibility to go to college campuses and enunciate and say what he believes his vision of both the world is and what he thinks is the way out of the middle east in all of this. so, yes, i think he should go, and again, i'm going to emphasize, though we often sort of g
. >> and matthew, if you're running the biden campaign or if you're in the biden white house, why put him on any college campus right now? >> he can't run from it. i'm sorry, that was for matthew. can't run from it, right, math rue? >> that's right. this is the time of year you give commencement addresses, and this is an incredibly important issue. i actually believe joe biden is exactly where the majority of the country is which is support israel in their attempts to get rid...