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the michael relationship, with michael cohen, he did a lot of dirty work for trump, but then michael has seen the light, went to prison for it, and he's willing to tell the truth now, and that infuriates donald trump, because it is the loyalty issue. everyone is expected to be loyal to trump, but trump is not loyal back to them. i'm curious to see how he behaves when it's michael cohen's turn on the stand. even though they will try to impugn his integrity and all that, that's fine, but there are receipts. this case isn't just based on michael cohen's word on things. there are other people corroborating this, and david pecker being one of them. that's why he went first. >> dave i wanted to turn to the gag order violations, trump is accused of violating the gag order four more times, bringing the total number of violations to 15. some eagle experts have speculated judge mershon might be willing to rule on these all at once rather separately. will he be asked to spend a night in jail or have consequence for violating these gag orders? >> maybe way down the line, ayman, but i think he's
the michael relationship, with michael cohen, he did a lot of dirty work for trump, but then michael has seen the light, went to prison for it, and he's willing to tell the truth now, and that infuriates donald trump, because it is the loyalty issue. everyone is expected to be loyal to trump, but trump is not loyal back to them. i'm curious to see how he behaves when it's michael cohen's turn on the stand. even though they will try to impugn his integrity and all that, that's fine, but there...
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he is going to back up and corroborate test many of michael cohen. we all know michael cohen has a credibility issue, given his prior convictions. he is going to corroborate that, and he's going to show what the payments were for that they weren't payments for legal services, that they were in fact hush money payments, and that leads [ inaudible ] >> one more question for you, renato. judge juan merchan has scheduled another hearing on trump's gag order. why didn't he rule after the first 10 times he allegedly violated the gag order.? >> there is an image of the sword of damocles hanging over your head. i think the judge wants this ruling hanging over the head over trump's lawyer. trump's lawyers now at the end of the day, ask evidence that comes in, they really don't want to be on the judge's bad side, and he is using this as a tool to try and get them to rein in their client as much as possible. >> oh, renato, that's really good. i'm sorry.[ laughter ] i love it when i hear stuff i have not heard before. anthony, i want to turn to the trump's immun
he is going to back up and corroborate test many of michael cohen. we all know michael cohen has a credibility issue, given his prior convictions. he is going to corroborate that, and he's going to show what the payments were for that they weren't payments for legal services, that they were in fact hush money payments, and that leads [ inaudible ] >> one more question for you, renato. judge juan merchan has scheduled another hearing on trump's gag order. why didn't he rule after the first...
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i think that you'll see other witnesses like hope hicks, like michael cohen just put on additional layers in filling out this picture of exactly how the scheme played out. >> now, pivoting right here to washington, as you heard me discuss with congressman thompson, the supreme court's conservative justices, many of whom were nominated by trump, appeared to at least considered his claim of total presidential immunity this week, some suggesting that such immunity was necessary for our democracy to function. the court's ruling is expected some time between now and july. what happens after that? >> well, it depends on what the court rules. rev, i was actually really surprised after this argument and during the argument. i thought that the supreme court would, perhaps, take its sweet time in issuing any ruling which would push off the possibility of a trial beyond the election, but i was really struck by the comments by some of the conservative justices who, as you said, really entertained this notion that a president would have immunity. not only that he would have it but that it would be nec
i think that you'll see other witnesses like hope hicks, like michael cohen just put on additional layers in filling out this picture of exactly how the scheme played out. >> now, pivoting right here to washington, as you heard me discuss with congressman thompson, the supreme court's conservative justices, many of whom were nominated by trump, appeared to at least considered his claim of total presidential immunity this week, some suggesting that such immunity was necessary for our...
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but they did not shield michael cohen. he was convicted and imprisoned by the very independent prosecutors who are federal prosecutors during the -era. over the week, the prosecution turned into rhona graff, who appears to be a better turns -- terms on him. the defendant and his company are still paying for her lawyers. you take this all together and what you see is a lot more evidence against than reasonable doubt on his behalf. that does not mean he is losing this case. we are in the da's side. the burden is on them. for a first week, this was not exactly a slow rise or a lot of accounting spreadsheets. this was a two by fours one repeatedly at president donald as a defendant and while some of that came from those prosecutors tough talk in the opening, tonight, we have to remember a lot of that tough talk and incriminating information came from his buddy, tabloid chief david , who said by the end of his testimony, is not personal and he still counts president donald as a friend, but he is telling the truth under oath abo
but they did not shield michael cohen. he was convicted and imprisoned by the very independent prosecutors who are federal prosecutors during the -era. over the week, the prosecution turned into rhona graff, who appears to be a better turns -- terms on him. the defendant and his company are still paying for her lawyers. you take this all together and what you see is a lot more evidence against than reasonable doubt on his behalf. that does not mean he is losing this case. we are in the da's...
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he testifies friday he worked at the bank used by michael cohen when cohen wired $130,000 hush money payment to stormy daniels and the days before the presidential election. arthel: prosecutors argue donald trump's hush money payment are election fraud. they are laying out the case against the former president monday saying this was a planned, long-running conspiracy to influence the 2016 election to help donald trump get elected through illegal expenditures, to silence people who had something bad to say about his behavior. todd blanche, lead attorney for the former president countering saying, quote, i have a spoiler alert, there's nothing wrong with trying to influence an election. it's called democracy. end quote. let's bring in nassau county district attorney robert schultz. let me get your reaction to those quotes. >> as he was trying to influence the election, they will rely heavily on the timing of the alleged payments to miss daniels, which counter -- controvert the statement of trump's lawyer. however trump's lawyer is correct, these catch and kill journalistic payments, hu
he testifies friday he worked at the bank used by michael cohen when cohen wired $130,000 hush money payment to stormy daniels and the days before the presidential election. arthel: prosecutors argue donald trump's hush money payment are election fraud. they are laying out the case against the former president monday saying this was a planned, long-running conspiracy to influence the 2016 election to help donald trump get elected through illegal expenditures, to silence people who had something...
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cohen. he asked pecker if you felt cohen was prone to exaggeration. pecker agreed he was after court. trump weighed in on the trial, eight days that we sitting in courthouse. i just want to thank hey, everybody for being here michelle for through this, like everybody else. >> michael cohen's banker took the stand on friday afternoon, explaining to the dreo he helped set up a bank account for the shell company that cohen ultimately used to transfer the $130,000 payment stormy daniels, there's no court on monday, but the banker will be back on the stand tuesday, answering question from prosecutors before trump's lawyers get a turn at him. kara scannell, cnn, new york and coming up former us attorney general, bill barr says donald trump should not be anywhere near the oval office, yet he still plans to vote for him assignment with hottie cornish. >> listen wherever you get your podcasts pain means pause on the things you love. >> but brene me go cool the pain with bio free. and keep on going bi
cohen. he asked pecker if you felt cohen was prone to exaggeration. pecker agreed he was after court. trump weighed in on the trial, eight days that we sitting in courthouse. i just want to thank hey, everybody for being here michelle for through this, like everybody else. >> michael cohen's banker took the stand on friday afternoon, explaining to the dreo he helped set up a bank account for the shell company that cohen ultimately used to transfer the $130,000 payment stormy daniels,...
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part of what the prosecution accomplished is that it is not michael cohen's show, it is going to be the david show right now. i think they did a good job of that. when were talking about cases, were talking about cases where people were killed or someone suffered a injury. that is what the case is and that is important because jury 's acquit. is a documents case and there's ample reason to convict him with what the defense did on the other side, the prosecution won inside the courtroom and the defense won inside the courtroom and we will explore this more later on but they did effectively manage to establish that former president trump is in fact above the law and as a defense team, they are also above the law. see people get thrown what we call the box, which is essentially a jail cell at the courthouse for not calling a judge serve. and i've seen defense lawyers get a lot of trouble just by making the judge angry and when it happens, only other ruling stop going your way. here we saw the judge say you are losing all credibility, sir, they did not bat an eye. that could match her terms
part of what the prosecution accomplished is that it is not michael cohen's show, it is going to be the david show right now. i think they did a good job of that. when were talking about cases, were talking about cases where people were killed or someone suffered a injury. that is what the case is and that is important because jury 's acquit. is a documents case and there's ample reason to convict him with what the defense did on the other side, the prosecution won inside the courtroom and the...
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bryan, let me be very clear, the prosecution is hiding michael cohen. if he's their star witness, they're hiding him. and the end game of this is to take trump off the campaign trail. it is to tie him up in a courtroom for9 9-10 weeks. that's the bottom line. it's not about a prosecution, it's about a possessor if cushion against trump. and this -- persecution. and this judge, the gag order and you look at everything that has been ruled against president trump in this particular case, it is basically to hurt trump's election chances which is failing because if you look at the polls, he's doing quite well. bryan: leo, they weren't aggressive with david pecker; that is, the attorneys for former president trump. if and when michael cohen takes the stand, how would you go after him? >> with aannihilation oring bryan. let me tell you right now, 35 years of trial experience, i would take every video of michael cohen showing his hatred towards trump where he appeared on msnbc and nb are c, and i would play those over and over again. i would have michael cohen
bryan, let me be very clear, the prosecution is hiding michael cohen. if he's their star witness, they're hiding him. and the end game of this is to take trump off the campaign trail. it is to tie him up in a courtroom for9 9-10 weeks. that's the bottom line. it's not about a prosecution, it's about a possessor if cushion against trump. and this -- persecution. and this judge, the gag order and you look at everything that has been ruled against president trump in this particular case, it is...
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likely wrapping up a banking associate who work closely with michael cohen to build the shell company that he used to pay stormy daniels. and then it's unclear who the prosecution's and next big witness will be. paula reid, cnn, new york are joining me right now to talk more about this trial is jeff swartz. he has a former judge in florida and a law professor at the tampa campus for the thomas m. cooley law school. great to see you again, judge thank you. >> it's nice to see you, too. >> correct. so how do you assess the impact of the testimony from david pecker, the first witness who took the stand for four days this week in the trial i think david pecker was an outstanding choice for the first witness. his the stage and he set the whole scheme up for the jury and he was really very good on cross-examination. i don't think that he actually got impeached in any really serious way. i think that people are going to look at his testimony and start building around it. i think the jury paid attention to them from all accounts. they pay very close attention to him. and i think he was incred
likely wrapping up a banking associate who work closely with michael cohen to build the shell company that he used to pay stormy daniels. and then it's unclear who the prosecution's and next big witness will be. paula reid, cnn, new york are joining me right now to talk more about this trial is jeff swartz. he has a former judge in florida and a law professor at the tampa campus for the thomas m. cooley law school. great to see you again, judge thank you. >> it's nice to see you, too....
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obviously, this is what happened to michael cohen. so, one thing mr. trump is very, very good at, alex, is moving the goal post on people. i think what was most interesting about the testimony of the last couple of days, is that david pecker has seen this movie before. so, he was not interested in having the goalposts moved on him. he was willing to do a few favors for mr. trump, and then he decided that that was going to be enough for him. he wasn't going to be mr. trump's bank. so, it is a frustrating thing because, listen, everybody is innocent until proven guilty, and this is a criminal case. so, i will just say, everybody is innocent until proven guilty. but, let's face it. people on that campaign team knew about the veracity of the facts associated with this case. >> so, hope hicks being named on the prosecution witness list, how pivotal a role might she play in the trial? >> well, since she is a really good person, i have enormous amount of respect for her, and i think she is going to tell the truth. so, whatever her truth is in terms of interac
obviously, this is what happened to michael cohen. so, one thing mr. trump is very, very good at, alex, is moving the goal post on people. i think what was most interesting about the testimony of the last couple of days, is that david pecker has seen this movie before. so, he was not interested in having the goalposts moved on him. he was willing to do a few favors for mr. trump, and then he decided that that was going to be enough for him. he wasn't going to be mr. trump's bank. so, it is a...
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he prospectively cooperates what michael cohen is in for. they are calling him just cohen, not even mr. cohen. he cooperates much of what he was going to say. his testimony will be in the broad middle. by david pecker, by the paper, and in other words, they are not relying on them. also making it clear this is about the campaign, nothing else. >> so tim, pecker agreed the story about astar, and it was gold. it could have been taken to the bank. what is the significant of this ? and what is the extent of the sacrifice that pecker was making to help trump? >> he was making a big financial sacrifice, alex. it certainly would be better if it has a screaming headline about the extramarital affair. and rather than crimped that story. he agrees not to and directly benefiting the trump campaign. the significance of that, that is the underlying crime. and the reason for the falsification of the records. the government has to approve that these records were falsified for the underlying purpose for protecting the campaign. they were effectively campaig
he prospectively cooperates what michael cohen is in for. they are calling him just cohen, not even mr. cohen. he cooperates much of what he was going to say. his testimony will be in the broad middle. by david pecker, by the paper, and in other words, they are not relying on them. also making it clear this is about the campaign, nothing else. >> so tim, pecker agreed the story about astar, and it was gold. it could have been taken to the bank. what is the significant of this ? and what...
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i'm michele for through this, like everybody else michael cohen's banker took the stand on friday afternoon, explaining to the dreo he helped set up a bank account for the shell company that cohen ultimately used to transfer the $130,000 payment stormy daniels, there's no court on monday, but the banker will be back on the stand tuesday, answering question from prosecutors before trump's lawyers get a turn at him. >> kara scannell, cnn, new york former president donald trump will also have a key hearing next week on the gag order against him. thursday morning. judge, merchan will weigh prosecutors arguments that trump violated the order four more times this week when he talked about michael cohen, david pecker, and the jury. that's an addition to ten other incidents which he is accused of violating the order joining us right now, camille vasco as a partner in the brown redneck law firm and co-chair of the brand and reputation management thank group vasquez also successfully represented johnny depp in his defamation case against his ex-wife. amber heard camille wright to seal nice to be here
i'm michele for through this, like everybody else michael cohen's banker took the stand on friday afternoon, explaining to the dreo he helped set up a bank account for the shell company that cohen ultimately used to transfer the $130,000 payment stormy daniels, there's no court on monday, but the banker will be back on the stand tuesday, answering question from prosecutors before trump's lawyers get a turn at him. >> kara scannell, cnn, new york former president donald trump will also...
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the conspiracy between donald trump, michael cohen and david pecker, to catch and kill stories in order to benefit donald trump in the 2016 presidential election. the chickens are coming home to roost for trump . we have joyce vance and hugo lowell onset to break it all down. >>> special counsel jack smith federal election interference case, what some consider to be donald trump's most consequential trial, is hanging in the balance as the united states supreme court considers the question of how far the former president criminal immunity extends. on thursday, the high court hearing oral arguments. according to nbc news, although the court appears likely to reject trumps expensive claim of absolute immunity, it could remand the case for further proceedings. now, if a majority of justices take that route, it would doom the trial to be delayed until after the 2024 election. if trump wins the white house, the case may be thrown out altogether. while we await a decision, trump is not finding much sympathy from republican leadership with senate leader mitch mcconnell saying in an interview on
the conspiracy between donald trump, michael cohen and david pecker, to catch and kill stories in order to benefit donald trump in the 2016 presidential election. the chickens are coming home to roost for trump . we have joyce vance and hugo lowell onset to break it all down. >>> special counsel jack smith federal election interference case, what some consider to be donald trump's most consequential trial, is hanging in the balance as the united states supreme court considers the...
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on friday he testified that michael cohen, trump's ex-fixer wired $130,000 in hush money to stormy daniels right before election day. meanwhile, few people think that trump is treated the same as other criminal defendants here in new york. a new cnn poll finds that 34% say trump is being treated more leniently. another 34% say no, more harshly. now, trump faces a slew of legal troubles outside of new york city, including federal charges that he conspired to overturn the 2020 election. trump has claimed presidential immunity, something the supreme court could rule on, following a hearing this past thursday. the longer the justices wait to issue that decision, the more likely that case will be delayed, david. david: cb, thank you very much. so did this week's testimony at the trial indicate which side is ahead so far? here to discuss is former deputy attorney general dupuis and former prosecutor, katie, good to see you both. katie, first to you. part of this, the national enquirer's publisher, mr. pecker, part of his testimony seemed to actually help donald trump. i mean, he was a prosecutio
on friday he testified that michael cohen, trump's ex-fixer wired $130,000 in hush money to stormy daniels right before election day. meanwhile, few people think that trump is treated the same as other criminal defendants here in new york. a new cnn poll finds that 34% say trump is being treated more leniently. another 34% say no, more harshly. now, trump faces a slew of legal troubles outside of new york city, including federal charges that he conspired to overturn the 2020 election. trump has...
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he is completely likable as a witness and also michael cohen. he is not punching back in the same way. he has so many deliverables for this prosecution. >> susanne, on that note about him not being michael cohen, david pecker is someone who talked about idolizing and respecting donald trump to this day. he was someone when they were sitting around, it wasn't just these cases and what we are talking about, he was also writing stories and putting them in the national enquirer about trump's rivals. he seems to be a much better witness than michael cohen who has already been and gone to jail for lying. talk a little bit about that. >> i think it is important that people know that david pecker is a principle here. he was talking to donald trump and another principle . michael cohen is a lawyer that was going out and executing what donald trump wanted. donna trump's lawyers i think will make michael cohen out to be a rope actor but what you saw with david pecker was a principle ahead of the national enquirer talking to his friend donald trump about pl
he is completely likable as a witness and also michael cohen. he is not punching back in the same way. he has so many deliverables for this prosecution. >> susanne, on that note about him not being michael cohen, david pecker is someone who talked about idolizing and respecting donald trump to this day. he was someone when they were sitting around, it wasn't just these cases and what we are talking about, he was also writing stories and putting them in the national enquirer about trump's...
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pete: michael cohen, known lie e car, taking the stand. yeah, gregg's got great analysis, has on this entire trial. and, will, we broke it down on off the wall. the point of this is to keep donald trump in new york city. carley: no question. pete: the whole thing is election interference. and then you read the transcripts of what's going on in the courtroom, it's hard to figure out what they're larging him with -- charging him with other than trying to make him look bad and and trying to make it look like what he did was an illegal management of funds toward the campaign for -- the whole thing is a mess of a charge, and that's why it's so confusing for everybody. carley: yeah. and i don't know if the d.a.'s office has considered the ramifications of a hung jury. what if donald trump survives this thing? what does that do to his political campaign? now he can say this is what i've been saying all along, guys. this is just election are interference and a total witch hunt. will: well, the purpose of the trial is twofold. one, to end up with t
pete: michael cohen, known lie e car, taking the stand. yeah, gregg's got great analysis, has on this entire trial. and, will, we broke it down on off the wall. the point of this is to keep donald trump in new york city. carley: no question. pete: the whole thing is election interference. and then you read the transcripts of what's going on in the courtroom, it's hard to figure out what they're larging him with -- charging him with other than trying to make him look bad and and trying to make...
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cohen. will: good morning, david. >> good morning. two weeks of the first ever criminal trial involving an ex-president in the books and busy day yesterday to wrap up the week with more testimony and we mentioned from trump friend and former national inquirer publisher david pecker. pecker is alleged to trust worthy bought former play mate karen mcdougle story and the intent never to publish and practice called catch and kill. lawyer with the former president and whether or not trump faced him with suppressing story and he may have violated federal election law and suppressing ms. pecker said i've been truthful to the best of my recollection. trump's long time executive assistant took the stand yesterday, that's her right there. said her boss of about 30 years was fair and respectful. graph said she haggly remembers seeing stormy daniels in trump tower before the 2016 election and daniels claims she had an affair with donald trump. meanwhile the former president and current president taking
cohen. will: good morning, david. >> good morning. two weeks of the first ever criminal trial involving an ex-president in the books and busy day yesterday to wrap up the week with more testimony and we mentioned from trump friend and former national inquirer publisher david pecker. pecker is alleged to trust worthy bought former play mate karen mcdougle story and the intent never to publish and practice called catch and kill. lawyer with the former president and whether or not trump...
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everybody else michael cohen's bank or took the stand friday afternoon, he described to the jury how he helped cohen set up the shell company that was ultimately used to transfer the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels. >> there's no court on monday, so the banker will be back on the stand tuesday. we're prosecutors will continue to question him then, donald trump's attorneys will get a chance to cross-examine him as his trial continues into next week, amara victor, kara scannell. thanks so much and doing now by former federal prosecutor, at least we'll good morning to you. let me start here with david pecker and then kind of go through some of the other witnesses. the prosecution. they spent several hours with him trying to get him to explain the process of these catch and kill. the defense then went and tried to undermine some of the testimony and the inconsistencies you said earlier to the fbi that trump did not. thank you. in january of 2017, during testimony, you said he did what's the value the impact of these inconsistencies on the larger question here of criminality victor, i
everybody else michael cohen's bank or took the stand friday afternoon, he described to the jury how he helped cohen set up the shell company that was ultimately used to transfer the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels. >> there's no court on monday, so the banker will be back on the stand tuesday. we're prosecutors will continue to question him then, donald trump's attorneys will get a chance to cross-examine him as his trial continues into next week, amara victor, kara scannell. thanks...
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michael cohen did open up an account. it open a shell company in order to get payment to stormy daniels. that's as far as we got in terms of the longtime assistant, all we heard is that we got confirmation that donald trump did have the contact information for karen mcdougal, as well as stormy daniels, and that stormy daniels was the at trump plaza at least on one occasion, but nothing that really stood out that was so bombshell that will stand out too. jury documentary evidence that he produced sort of establishing the timeline and the importance of getting those payments done before the election that will be crucial, right? absolutely. the urgency. so we learned the urgency that michael cohen had in order to get the payments made during that short period of time, not to sit on these payments, not to wait until after the election, but instead to get these payments that as soon as he requested it, which was shortly after the accident this hollywood tape had been released. so we got to learn to urgency and the importance o
michael cohen did open up an account. it open a shell company in order to get payment to stormy daniels. that's as far as we got in terms of the longtime assistant, all we heard is that we got confirmation that donald trump did have the contact information for karen mcdougal, as well as stormy daniels, and that stormy daniels was the at trump plaza at least on one occasion, but nothing that really stood out that was so bombshell that will stand out too. jury documentary evidence that he...
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michael cohen told him not to worry because geoff sessions is the attorney general and donald trump has him in his pocket. did trump expect his ag to go easy on his friends i don't know. i don't know what he expected what was your experience? >> my experience was why the time i came in, he did not he did not push me to do one thing or another on these criminal cases. now we tweeted and mavi, his public views on things known, but he never talked to me about them directly, so we did not have you in his pocket. he would argue it's not a question of arguing. i did what i thought was right. >> and you never felt any direct pressure from him on what investigations the doj you did not directly pressure may as i say, he was out there tweeting and doing things that were embarrassing and made it hard for me to run the department that sounds like pressure wasn't pressure. it was just i mean, for example, i had decided that we were going to not agree to a sentence on stone that was three times longer than normal. >> and i'd already decided that. and then he was tweeting about stone. so it just made
michael cohen told him not to worry because geoff sessions is the attorney general and donald trump has him in his pocket. did trump expect his ag to go easy on his friends i don't know. i don't know what he expected what was your experience? >> my experience was why the time i came in, he did not he did not push me to do one thing or another on these criminal cases. now we tweeted and mavi, his public views on things known, but he never talked to me about them directly, so we did not...
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and then you have a banker that dealt with michael cohen. so very, very uneventful that the needle wasn't moved at all. at one point it got so absurd, i mike, that the d.a.'s was objecting to the defense attorney referencing president trump as presidentas t, trump. is president trump saying that? and it was a tweet just cameinsf out during the cross of pecker. trump's defense attorney, emil bovee ha, had been repeatedlypei referring to trump as president trump when referencing periodso of time when trump was not in office. the d.a.'s office keeps objectinctine mercg and judge mn keeps sustaining those t objections. so okay, convict him of usinheg the wrong title for trump at that timthe. . >> this is this is where we are like mean. >>, en pretty powerful that one. that's pretty crummy. we call president obamt obthat't president. that's crazy that you wouldn't call a former president th's the president. that's that's their title for the rest of their lives. and it just shows you hos.and es process is. and even though the evidence is completel
and then you have a banker that dealt with michael cohen. so very, very uneventful that the needle wasn't moved at all. at one point it got so absurd, i mike, that the d.a.'s was objecting to the defense attorney referencing president trump as presidentas t, trump. is president trump saying that? and it was a tweet just cameinsf out during the cross of pecker. trump's defense attorney, emil bovee ha, had been repeatedlypei referring to trump as president trump when referencing periodso of time...
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let's michael cohen isn't very easy to show. michael cohen committed crime given he spent time in prison yeah, he pled to the federal offense, which is a little different than the falsifying documents, which is the state offense. the hilt say he committed a crime, so it won't be that hard. but you want to establish exactly how he committed the crime, which is through this financing and then tied donald trump right to that what do i think what stood out to me this week is the entire defense is starting to take shape, are starting to understand how they're going to present their defense. >> and it's largely through the people's witnesses rather than going on the attack and going on the offensive against the witnesses that have testified so far, there sort of embracing the facts but saying yeah, these things happened. yeah, there was hush money paid, but we've been doing that. that was being done for everybody, wasn't had nothing to do with the election. this is just a business model and this is how it went. this is essentially how
let's michael cohen isn't very easy to show. michael cohen committed crime given he spent time in prison yeah, he pled to the federal offense, which is a little different than the falsifying documents, which is the state offense. the hilt say he committed a crime, so it won't be that hard. but you want to establish exactly how he committed the crime, which is through this financing and then tied donald trump right to that what do i think what stood out to me this week is the entire defense is...
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you can't do this just on the shoulders of michael cohen thighs, on the shoulders of michael cohen. right. you need everything else around him to lift him up. otherwise, there is no correct? right. you can't you can't have it on. i know he has long felt that they were going to do that and that he would be he would say it. but then they would prove it separately from my one to the side. he's he's critical, but everything around him and stew one thing that is david pecker is now walked off the stand men that had been friends. >> again, we put that in quotes, but friends such that they were friends over decades. they have not spoken since the beginning of 2019, according to pecker's testimony. so do you think they'll ever speak again? i mean, trump has said things about him this way. >> if you look at how once pecker told his tail that he was required to he also tried to make friends with trump again, so more like from the godfather, it's personal, not business and this is kind of that relationship anyways, so pretty yep description? >> yeah. all right. well, thank you all very much. >
you can't do this just on the shoulders of michael cohen thighs, on the shoulders of michael cohen. right. you need everything else around him to lift him up. otherwise, there is no correct? right. you can't you can't have it on. i know he has long felt that they were going to do that and that he would be he would say it. but then they would prove it separately from my one to the side. he's he's critical, but everything around him and stew one thing that is david pecker is now walked off the...
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at the heart of the case, $130,000 payment that michael cohen made to daniels so she would not go public, and how prosecutors say that payment was disguised. she testified that even though she no longer works for the trump organization, the company is paying her legal bills. the jury also heard from a former banker and first republic bank employee who helped to facilitate the payment , but the day began with the defense team seeking to undercut testimony of david pecker, the former publisher of the national enquirer, and a key witness for prosecutors , testifying at length about how he helped to silence people who could have hurt mr. trump's election chances. trump's lawyers sought to raise questions about david memory and motive. david pecker was defined at one point, saying "i've been truthful to the best of my recollection ." the tabloid mogul also undermined the idea that trump wanted to bury those stories about women to protect his family, a common refrain from the defense. instead, he said he believed it was all to protect his campaign. >> i do have to begin by wishing melania trum
at the heart of the case, $130,000 payment that michael cohen made to daniels so she would not go public, and how prosecutors say that payment was disguised. she testified that even though she no longer works for the trump organization, the company is paying her legal bills. the jury also heard from a former banker and first republic bank employee who helped to facilitate the payment , but the day began with the defense team seeking to undercut testimony of david pecker, the former publisher of...
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whatever michael cohen may have done and whatevermpichael >> who's in there now? david pecker may have done. to they're trying to attribute david's packers knowledgeinance of campaign finance violations to donald trump. there shouldn' vdonaldt been a e instruction right then and there by the court there tht cannot assume that because david pecker knew something that donal that d trump knew its but this is this is the kind of case that an inexperienced political operative is trying ae in manhattan. and let me just say one more thing. thisin m gag order. the gag order was to make sureti that the president did not make or direct others to make o a public statement. when donald trump repeats untruths. i so so what other people have said he is not makinnot makig oe directing them to make public statements. and that's why he is not h holding him in contempt yet because it is so written. these people are so incensed, so full of hatl of hate that tho anything to keep this man down. and ye anyt he goes outside, he talks to construction workers, he goes to a bodega, they ch
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to obtain a $130,000 home equity loan which michael cohen later funneled to stormy daniels through a shell company. friday, he authenticated bank records which prosecutors showed to jurors. that testimony will continue in trial resumes tuesday morning. prosecutors are using his testimony to authenticate documents related to the transaction. that testimony continues when the trial resumes tuesday morning. judge merchan announced a gag order hearing will take place thursday, to hear new arguments about all of the alleged violations that donald trump has committed this week. leaving off our discussion, we were in the courtroom and will be every day of the trial. a fellow at security and the former supervisor of the prosecutions and civil rights union of the eastern district of new york. good evening. unlike a lot of trump supporters and family, you've been there watching what's going on. tell us what happened. we had interesting testimony. >> we did. the first and foremost thing, we had the end of david testimony. this has been a weeklong testimony that sent the course of this trial on.
to obtain a $130,000 home equity loan which michael cohen later funneled to stormy daniels through a shell company. friday, he authenticated bank records which prosecutors showed to jurors. that testimony will continue in trial resumes tuesday morning. prosecutors are using his testimony to authenticate documents related to the transaction. that testimony continues when the trial resumes tuesday morning. judge merchan announced a gag order hearing will take place thursday, to hear new arguments...
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but trump's doj didn't actually shield michael cohen. he was convicted and imprisoned by the prosecutors who are federal prosecutors during the trump era. by the end of the week, prosecution turned to a trump employee who appear to be on better terms with him than cohen. trump is frugal but they are still paying for her lawyers. you take this all together, you see a lot more evidence against trump than reasonable doubt on his behalf. that doesn't mean he is losing this case. we are on the da's side. but this wasn't exactly a slow rise. as we get into this, you have to remember a lot of the tough talk and incriminating information came from his buddy. cab lloyd chief david pecker who said by the end of his testimony is not personal. he still counts donald trump as a friend. how bad is it? we have two special guests with me at the table. when we are back in 90 seconds. i want from my metastatic breast cancer treatment. and with kisqali, i can have both. kisqali is a pill that when taken with an aromatase inhibitor helps delay cancer from g
but trump's doj didn't actually shield michael cohen. he was convicted and imprisoned by the prosecutors who are federal prosecutors during the trump era. by the end of the week, prosecution turned to a trump employee who appear to be on better terms with him than cohen. trump is frugal but they are still paying for her lawyers. you take this all together, you see a lot more evidence against trump than reasonable doubt on his behalf. that doesn't mean he is losing this case. we are on the da's...
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says and point to what michael cohen says so what what he says has greater credibility than michael cohen himself. >> ankush khardori, let's talk about the order of all of this. the prosecution starts with the blockbuster witness, david pecker. now they are moving into the nitty-gritty. what kind of strategy goes into the sequence here? >> i think it is largely chronological, so far, as i can see it. they are just trying to lay out, tell the story in a simple chronological fashion, the best way to tell a story often is chronologically. but, i think that is what is happening here. i expect at some point, perhaps even next week, they are going to need to start to move into, okay, how are these records, how are these payments booked internally within the trump organization. maybe next week or the following week, at some point, the trial needs to get there. that is the meat and potatoes of the actual charges against trump. >> eugene, trump keeps complaining about the trial keeping him off the campaign trail and wednesday, when, you know, wednesday was his one day off from court this week, and
says and point to what michael cohen says so what what he says has greater credibility than michael cohen himself. >> ankush khardori, let's talk about the order of all of this. the prosecution starts with the blockbuster witness, david pecker. now they are moving into the nitty-gritty. what kind of strategy goes into the sequence here? >> i think it is largely chronological, so far, as i can see it. they are just trying to lay out, tell the story in a simple chronological fashion,...
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cohen spoke to me, he gave a sense of urgency and this is one of those times answer, this is one of those times. let's talk about it now apart, federal prosecutor jean rossi here presented keith davidson, who actually negotiated the ndas with karen mcdougal and also stormy daniels, former trump attorney tim parlatore, and cnn legal analyst, former federal prosecutor, elliot williams, four republicans who your congressional advisor, reno shaw, and law enforcement reporter for the washington post devlin barrett. he's the also the author of the coauthor of the trump trials newsletter. so i want to begin with this idea of of gary farro because his testimony in many respects was why i think that people may not have anticipated they were thinking about michael cohen and stormy daniels are thinking about, of course, david pecker, maybe karen mcdougal talk to you about the decision to have this person testified, what was the weight of it well, number one, it was a friday and they did not know. i agree. i mean, that it it would not have been in the interest of the prosecutors to call a big s
cohen spoke to me, he gave a sense of urgency and this is one of those times answer, this is one of those times. let's talk about it now apart, federal prosecutor jean rossi here presented keith davidson, who actually negotiated the ndas with karen mcdougal and also stormy daniels, former trump attorney tim parlatore, and cnn legal analyst, former federal prosecutor, elliot williams, four republicans who your congressional advisor, reno shaw, and law enforcement reporter for the washington post...
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he is michael cohen's former banker. he worked at first republic and if that bank sounds vaguely familiar to you, is because it crashed and burned last year. pharaoh was the one who put the rubber stamp on a brand new shell company for cohen resolution consultants. that was the company that the fixer used to pay the porn star. let's bring in our panel. we have jid rosie here, former federal prosecutor, former trump attorney tim parlatore, allele. it will williams, a former deputy assistant attorney general, and marcus childress farmer, january 6, investigative counsel. everyone, thanks for being here. so first of all trump keeps complaining about this courthouse. is really that gold. i've been i've tried several cases in that courthouse it was hard when i was there, but i think they've done some renovations so i guess the answer is no. >> it is a dingy 19, i think 60s or 70s style bonfire of the vanities might be the best way to describe the courthouse. that probably hasn't undergone the kind of renovations that you thin
he is michael cohen's former banker. he worked at first republic and if that bank sounds vaguely familiar to you, is because it crashed and burned last year. pharaoh was the one who put the rubber stamp on a brand new shell company for cohen resolution consultants. that was the company that the fixer used to pay the porn star. let's bring in our panel. we have jid rosie here, former federal prosecutor, former trump attorney tim parlatore, allele. it will williams, a former deputy assistant...
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the third witness was gary farro, a former manager at the bank michael cohen used to obtain a $130,000 home equity loan which cohen funneled to stormy daniels through a shell company. on friday, he authenticated bank records from that shell company, which prosecutors showed to jurors. testimony will continue when the trial resumes tuesday morning. prosecutors are using his testimony to authenticate documents related to the transaction. gary farro's testimony will continue when the trial resumes tuesday morning. judge merchan also noticed that a gag order hearing will take place on thursday to hear evidence about the new violations donald trump has committed this week. leading up our discussion, he was in the courtroom today and will be every day. former supervisor of the special prosecutions and civil rights unit of the eastern district of new york. good evening to both of you. unlike a lot of donald trump supporters and family, you have been there, watching what is going on. tell us what happened. we had three interesting pieces of testimony. >> we did and first and foremost we had th
the third witness was gary farro, a former manager at the bank michael cohen used to obtain a $130,000 home equity loan which cohen funneled to stormy daniels through a shell company. on friday, he authenticated bank records from that shell company, which prosecutors showed to jurors. testimony will continue when the trial resumes tuesday morning. prosecutors are using his testimony to authenticate documents related to the transaction. gary farro's testimony will continue when the trial resumes...
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talking to michael cohen and donald trump about this. a very strong witness on the outside, it seems, on the stand. i wonder how much he is really undergirded a very strong argument in advance of michael cohen's testimony. >> there are a couple of things that are great about him. first you get the real sense that it is principal and principal. david pecker, donald trump. michael cohen is a staffer to use nicolle wallace's term. he is not a principal in this. you have the national enquirer and you have donald trump, they are making the decisions. that is important and he tells you how it began, how it was carried out and how it ended. he also gives you why it is a felony and why you should care. what i mean by why it is a felony, remember this would be a misdemeanor if it is not to conceal or further some other crime and he tells you it is election fraud. >> full on. >> up one side and down the other. so the only piece that is really missing is sort of the false business records. so the piece that you still need, obviously there are false
talking to michael cohen and donald trump about this. a very strong witness on the outside, it seems, on the stand. i wonder how much he is really undergirded a very strong argument in advance of michael cohen's testimony. >> there are a couple of things that are great about him. first you get the real sense that it is principal and principal. david pecker, donald trump. michael cohen is a staffer to use nicolle wallace's term. he is not a principal in this. you have the national enquirer...
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cohen as our star witness one thing that probably bothers me the most about this case right now is the fact that they put a gag order on president trump former president current republican nominee for president of the nine states likely going to be the next president i certainly hope he is he is not allowed to talk about michael cohen is a convicted perjurer guy who came in front of congress in life six times in one congressional hearing he is allowed to say whatever he wants? but president trump has a gag order from this judge this obviously partisan judge whose daughter works for every democrat you can thank of this is what is so unfair it's all driven by politics the whole plan here is to keep biden in the basement because he can't talk anybody then keep biden in the basement and trump on trial that's what the democrats are trying to do that their whole plan because they know president trump will win if he's out there able to campaign and that's why they're trying to keep him tied up. >> sean: we have a biden donor is the judge with family members and accused family financial confli
cohen as our star witness one thing that probably bothers me the most about this case right now is the fact that they put a gag order on president trump former president current republican nominee for president of the nine states likely going to be the next president i certainly hope he is he is not allowed to talk about michael cohen is a convicted perjurer guy who came in front of congress in life six times in one congressional hearing he is allowed to say whatever he wants? but president...
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cohen after michael cohen arranged payouts to stormy daniels, karen mcdougal, to bury their stories of infidelity with trump. those payments are substantiated. they happened. if you told me before the trial that trump and david pecker didn't really realize they were crossing a legal line and breaking campaign finance law, that would have honestly struck me as plausible. there is just one problem with that line of defense, david actual testimony. you see, on tuesday, a prosecutor asked him directly, "did you have any concerns about the legality of ami, paying to kill a story regarding a political candidate ?" david pecker answered, "yes i did." when asked why he had legal concerns, david pecker responded he had an issue when he acquired a story for arnold schwarzenegger. remember that back in 2013 ? arnold schwarzenegger was launching his political career and was concerned about negative press and so he made an arrangement with david pecker to catch and kill those stories. some of those stories got out. on the campaign trail, david pecker says when arnold schwarzenegger was asked abo
cohen after michael cohen arranged payouts to stormy daniels, karen mcdougal, to bury their stories of infidelity with trump. those payments are substantiated. they happened. if you told me before the trial that trump and david pecker didn't really realize they were crossing a legal line and breaking campaign finance law, that would have honestly struck me as plausible. there is just one problem with that line of defense, david actual testimony. you see, on tuesday, a prosecutor asked him...
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but she is really up there in the inner, inner, inner circle for trump with michael cohen, with allen weisselberg, the people that he literally spent the most -- had the most communication with. >> she's like a personal assistant. >> personal assistant but was one of the key gate keepers. the trump organization really only had about 14 people working for it. trump only had about three, four people he was talking to on a regular basis and rhona was one of them. handled all of his communications. so why was she important? what did she do today? it's that a lot of it was to authenticate a lot of the documents, a lot of the communications that we're going to be seeing later in the trial. and particularly then it was the placement of stormy daniels at the property, at trump tower, and critically, the outlook contact cards -- >> that she knew. >> of daniels and mcdougal that was sitting there in trump's rolodex. >> what's the significance of that, other than trump knew these women? >> look, the prosecutors don't have to prove that trump actually had relationships with either stormy daniels
but she is really up there in the inner, inner, inner circle for trump with michael cohen, with allen weisselberg, the people that he literally spent the most -- had the most communication with. >> she's like a personal assistant. >> personal assistant but was one of the key gate keepers. the trump organization really only had about 14 people working for it. trump only had about three, four people he was talking to on a regular basis and rhona was one of them. handled all of his...
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david pecker testified trump had no knowledge ever the payment by michael cohen. this case is a dog. >> laura: dead dog, doesn't bark. sol and mike have a great weekend. all right, apparently hamas is -- has some new friends. we'll tell you about. is it because they see new recruits in america? hmmm, curious, we'll explain it, next. ♪ ego, the number one rated brand in cordless outdoor power brings you the select cut mower. customize the cut with three interchangeable blades. it cuts for over an hour on a single charge. ego - exclusively at lowe's, ace and ego authorized dealers. ( ♪ ) my back got injured very bad. i was off work for about a year. i heard about relief factor from my wife. i took it every day, three times a day, for three weeks. look at her and i said, "the pain is gone." and she said, i'm glad it helped. i said, "no, you don't understand. it's gone." you, too, can feel better every day with relief factor, a daily supplement that fights pain naturally. call or go online now for our 3-week quickstart, just $19.95. ♪ >> laura: they say ignoranc
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i want to read an interesting line from michael cohen's banker, gary pharaoh. this is what gary farro testifying. every time michael cohen's spoke to me, he gave a sense of urgency and this was one of those times breakdown the significance of the bankers testimony today that is set to continue. we're told next week yeah, when michael cohen says that to gary farro as he's testifying, it's a moment where michael cohen wants to set up an account with this private bank in 2016 where gary farro works. >> this is the bank through which the payment ultimately is going to be set up to be paid to stormy daniels from michael cohen, $130,000 to keep her story quiet. >> and what he's doing is piecing in new parts of the puzzle. the prosecutors want to be able to show the jury every step of the money and the effort toward paying off stormy daniels from donald trump's sphere. >> gary pharaoh is one of the people that can do that both with his testimony and with his evidence, he can help them show the documents, the emails, the exchanges, and a crucial document from him that
i want to read an interesting line from michael cohen's banker, gary pharaoh. this is what gary farro testifying. every time michael cohen's spoke to me, he gave a sense of urgency and this was one of those times breakdown the significance of the bankers testimony today that is set to continue. we're told next week yeah, when michael cohen says that to gary farro as he's testifying, it's a moment where michael cohen wants to set up an account with this private bank in 2016 where gary farro...
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but trump's doj didn't actually shield michael cohen. he was convicted and imprisoned by the very independent sdny prosecutors who were prosecutors during the trump era. and by the end of the week they turned to vrana graph. she is frugal but the defendant, his company, they are still paying for her lawyers. you take this all together and what you see is a lot more evidence against trump than reasonable doubt on his behalf. that doesn't mean he's losing this case. we are on the da's side. the burden is on them, but for a first week this wasn't exactly a slow rise or a lot of accounting spreadsheets, this was a 2x4 swung repeatedly at donald trump as a defendant and while some of that came from those prosecutors tough talk in the opening which i read to you, as we get into this in the special tonight, you've got to remember a lot of that tough talk and incriminating information came from his buddy, tabloid chief david pecker who said by the end of his testimony, it's not personal. he still counts donald trump as a friend, he's just tellin
but trump's doj didn't actually shield michael cohen. he was convicted and imprisoned by the very independent sdny prosecutors who were prosecutors during the trump era. and by the end of the week they turned to vrana graph. she is frugal but the defendant, his company, they are still paying for her lawyers. you take this all together and what you see is a lot more evidence against trump than reasonable doubt on his behalf. that doesn't mean he's losing this case. we are on the da's side. the...
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else will and then michael cohen would handle by them or trying to make sure that they don't ever get published unquote. so even if the term catch and kill wasn't used you wrote a book called catch and kill. is that not catching gill that is the definition of this colloquial term that has emerged around this catch and kill, which was a term that i and other journalists around this first started during from ami employees it was something of what's called a neologism. >> it entered into the discourse partly through this, and it was a practice the enquirer had engaged in for a long time, this sort of stick and karatay we'll buy up the unflattering stories. maybe we won't run them. also. will run flattering stories about you. they had done that if hollywood celebrities in the past, and here they were clearly applying it in a political context and it was apparent to all of us digging through the trail of money on this, that even if the underlying rumors about a fares are supposed, love children, didn't matter at all and we didn't care what did matter was the potential flexion line implicat
else will and then michael cohen would handle by them or trying to make sure that they don't ever get published unquote. so even if the term catch and kill wasn't used you wrote a book called catch and kill. is that not catching gill that is the definition of this colloquial term that has emerged around this catch and kill, which was a term that i and other journalists around this first started during from ami employees it was something of what's called a neologism. >> it entered into the...
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michael cohen. from michael cohen, maybe it's not as salacious, but this is actually what the trial and the crime itself. >> it is michael cohen was contacting this bank because he they'd been having this discussion about ami and david pecker is the firewood owned the national enquirer? >> yes. they've been having the discussion on them making the payment to stormy daniels and essentially david pecker or didn't want anything to do it. he did not want to be in cahoots with a porn star making this payment to her. and it came to this point where michael cohen was trying to reach trump. he was under pressure to do this and finally said, i'm just going to do it myself and drew down a home equity line that's why this exchange happening right now pharaoh received another email two days later, please return michael cohen's call when you are available today regarding an important merit, a matter pharaoh calls cohen who told him he wanted to open a new llc account. >> cohen said the account was for capital re
michael cohen. from michael cohen, maybe it's not as salacious, but this is actually what the trial and the crime itself. >> it is michael cohen was contacting this bank because he they'd been having this discussion about ami and david pecker is the firewood owned the national enquirer? >> yes. they've been having the discussion on them making the payment to stormy daniels and essentially david pecker or didn't want anything to do it. he did not want to be in cahoots with a porn...
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cohen, we all talk about how michael cohen is the centre of this case but the assumption was that no one in their right mind would put all their money on michael cohen for anything but when you look at these questions some of the information they are eliciting it really does look like the prosecution is putting everything on cohen and they seem to be laying the foundation and he supposed to be the one to deliver the coup de grace i just don't see how he can do that. >> we haven't heard from you just yet fail, what has struck you so far and as far as witnesses this would be the third witness that has been called up so far we know there is still a lot of star witnesses we have not yet seen and heard from yet. >> it's great to be with you again as always listen this has all been i think windowdressing so far i haven't seen anything that points to a scintilla of a crime here ordinarily i would say if this was a typical trial where you had a fair judge and you had a fair and unbiased a jury and a fair jury pool to pull that jury from i would say that the trial would be collapsing under it
cohen, we all talk about how michael cohen is the centre of this case but the assumption was that no one in their right mind would put all their money on michael cohen for anything but when you look at these questions some of the information they are eliciting it really does look like the prosecution is putting everything on cohen and they seem to be laying the foundation and he supposed to be the one to deliver the coup de grace i just don't see how he can do that. >> we haven't heard...
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it wasn't michael cohen. who had sex with stormy daniels, it wasn't michael cohen. who it a love affair with karen mcdougal. it wasn't michael cohen. >> al this last witness is because they know they are going to try to say it was michael cohen who did this personally. >> he department benefit at all. i'm trying to pick up on the common sense thing. >> let me just say a cohen point right now, both sides the defense has take a call of calling him cohen instead of the first name and trying to dirty him up in a sort of opportunity toir way. even the prosecution has put in a few things about he's a challenging kind of client for that bank guy. pecker thinks he exaggerates. so the jury, i'm sure, is very curious to see this guy. and i think the da's main task, they have laid the tracks well, but they know that cohen is coming. their main task is between hicks, between pecker, and then the paperwork is to corroborate every single hole so at the end of the day, they can get up and say, look, michael cohen, first of all, you can believe him for these reasons, but even if yo
it wasn't michael cohen. who had sex with stormy daniels, it wasn't michael cohen. who it a love affair with karen mcdougal. it wasn't michael cohen. >> al this last witness is because they know they are going to try to say it was michael cohen who did this personally. >> he department benefit at all. i'm trying to pick up on the common sense thing. >> let me just say a cohen point right now, both sides the defense has take a call of calling him cohen instead of the first name...
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one of those minions is michael cohen, and this was all michael cohen's show, not donald trump who was mostly in the dark. the people know they're going to explore that as a defense t. they are prebutting it, rebutting it in advance. >> graff is off the stand. no redirect. everything you said, danny, is now moot. >> you didn't have to point it out. >> once again. she's off the stand, they're going to get a third witness today. we're waiting to see who that witness is. we're going to take a quick break. once again, our coverage of donald trump's criminal hush money trial continues in just a moment. inues in just a moment ♪♪ missing out on the things you love because of asthma? get back to better breathing with fasenra, an add-on treatment for eosinophilic asthma that is taken once every 8 weeks. fasenra is not for sudden breathing problems or other eosinophilic conditions. allergic reactions may occur. don't stop your asthma treatments without talking with your doctor. tell your doctor if your asthma worsens. headache and sore throat may occur. tell your doctor if you have a parasit
one of those minions is michael cohen, and this was all michael cohen's show, not donald trump who was mostly in the dark. the people know they're going to explore that as a defense t. they are prebutting it, rebutting it in advance. >> graff is off the stand. no redirect. everything you said, danny, is now moot. >> you didn't have to point it out. >> once again. she's off the stand, they're going to get a third witness today. we're waiting to see who that witness is. we're...
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explained how he and trump's former lawyer, michael cohen, worked together to catch and kill negative stories about trump in an effort to prevent alleged affairs from becoming scandals during his 2016 presidential campaign. >>>>case is really rises and falls with david peckers testimony because he is the linchpin behind. their theory of this sort of conspiratorial. scheme. to influence the election. >reporter>trump faces 34 felony counts of falsifying business records. he's accused of funneling so called hush money payments through michael cohen to adult film star stormy daniels before the 2016 election. >>>>it's not a crime if it wasn't done with the purpose of influencing the election. >reporter>the presumptive republican presidential nominee has repeatedly expressed frustration that the trial is keeping him off the campaign trail today, he expressed frustration that it's keeping him from celebrating his wife. melania's birthday. >ryan>and the former president also says he's been following the arguments as the serene court and his immunity case. calling his arguments were brilliant
explained how he and trump's former lawyer, michael cohen, worked together to catch and kill negative stories about trump in an effort to prevent alleged affairs from becoming scandals during his 2016 presidential campaign. >>>>case is really rises and falls with david peckers testimony because he is the linchpin behind. their theory of this sort of conspiratorial. scheme. to influence the election. >reporter>trump faces 34 felony counts of falsifying business records. he's...
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this is about setting up the michael cohen testimony and establishing relevance of the michael cohen testimony in advance and basically trying to give credibility to michael cohen's testimony which we haven't had yet that will be the end probably because michael cohen himself is very incredible perjury, we have all of the record of all the things he has done wrong he's been in prison this is all to set up that and sanitize michael cohen. >> but it's establishing trimer patterns of behaviour saying this is the way the trump team works because this case basically involves michael cohen down trump and alan weitzel berg these are the people who supposedly were about round the payment in this case so by establishing that and packer saying he passed on that he didn't want anything to do with tony daniels because we are in walmart and we don't want porn stars on the cover of our magazine people like it one of the things that i am curious about because you have a close look i'm going to be there next week to get a close look which i'm looking forward to but what is the feel for how the teams
this is about setting up the michael cohen testimony and establishing relevance of the michael cohen testimony in advance and basically trying to give credibility to michael cohen's testimony which we haven't had yet that will be the end probably because michael cohen himself is very incredible perjury, we have all of the record of all the things he has done wrong he's been in prison this is all to set up that and sanitize michael cohen. >> but it's establishing trimer patterns of...