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maybe that's a lesson trump learned about david pecker. you don't want to create enemies when you don't have to. pecker didn't want to be there, but he's under a nonprosecution agreement, an immunity deal, and on subpoena where he had to testify. perhaps that's part of it, too. >> tara, your take on trump's comments on pecker. the psychology of donald trump trying to assess and analyze the kind of information david pecker can reveal about him speaks to what david pecker knows about donald trump. >> absolutely. this is a multi-decade relationship. this is the tip of the iceberg. trump has had his hands in all kinds of salacious things over the years, and david pecker controlled a lot of that cremation flow. so it's a transactional relationship. donald trump may be a lot of things, but he's not stupid when it comes to knowing where his bread is buttered, or making sure who doesn't get on his backside, when he can control it. the michael relationship, with michael cohen, he did a lot of dirty work for trump, but then michael has seen the ligh
maybe that's a lesson trump learned about david pecker. you don't want to create enemies when you don't have to. pecker didn't want to be there, but he's under a nonprosecution agreement, an immunity deal, and on subpoena where he had to testify. perhaps that's part of it, too. >> tara, your take on trump's comments on pecker. the psychology of donald trump trying to assess and analyze the kind of information david pecker can reveal about him speaks to what david pecker knows about donald...
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former national inquirer publisher, david pecker, was the first to take the stand. testifying that he suppressed story about trump's scandals and spread lies about his rivals in the 2016 race. also known as fake news. pecker said he served as the " eyes and ears for the campaign at trump's on request. " then, rhona graff testified under subpoena, saying she remembered seeing stormy daniels in the trump tower lobby, and adding her contact info to the trump organization database. when court reconvenes, tuesday morning, there will be more testimony from the banker, who helped michael cohen pay off stormy daniels. now, here's some food for thought. as we hurtle into week two of trump's hush money election interference trial. if the supreme court rules as expected in the immunity case the case brought by district attorney alvin bragg could be trump's first and last criminal trial before the election. joining me now from a former federal prosecutor, legal affairs columnist for politico magazine. msnbc justice and legal affairs analyst, anthony coley, director of the justi
former national inquirer publisher, david pecker, was the first to take the stand. testifying that he suppressed story about trump's scandals and spread lies about his rivals in the 2016 race. also known as fake news. pecker said he served as the " eyes and ears for the campaign at trump's on request. " then, rhona graff testified under subpoena, saying she remembered seeing stormy daniels in the trump tower lobby, and adding her contact info to the trump organization database. when...
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they tried with his -- the fact that david pecker himself entered into a non pros. cushion agreement, but that doesn't mean that he's lying on the stand. it seems to be very credible. >> now, pecker also detailed making a payout to former playmate karen mcdougal to silence her account of an alleged affair with trump. yesterday trump's longtime assistant said that information for both mcdougal and stormy daniels were in trump's contact list, and pecker testified that he spoke with former white house staffer, hope hicks and sarah sanders, about an extension of mcdougal's hush money contract on a call with the white house. what do you think the jury took from all of that? >> well, i think that the jury can very easily take the fact that this was an organized scheme. this wasn't just the national enquirer, for example, acting on its own, buying stories that they just didn't want published in competitive -- in competitor's news publications, they were doing this for the purpose, for donald trump, to give him a benefit, a presidential benefit, a campaign benefit that. is
they tried with his -- the fact that david pecker himself entered into a non pros. cushion agreement, but that doesn't mean that he's lying on the stand. it seems to be very credible. >> now, pecker also detailed making a payout to former playmate karen mcdougal to silence her account of an alleged affair with trump. yesterday trump's longtime assistant said that information for both mcdougal and stormy daniels were in trump's contact list, and pecker testified that he spoke with former...
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david pecker has been admitting that. he recounts his dealing with the star witness michael cohen to buy in and bury stories, in order to protect president donald 's campaign. they allege an agreement to then hide financial footprints. they told the jury this will also be corroborated with evidence in , the defendant's own words, showing an illegal conspiracy. he said there is not an actual conspiracy charge in this case. that is true. the word conspiracy has a legal meaning and a more colloquial meaning if you have ever watched a mafia movie. they are saying they conspired together. they also attack the whole conspiracy theory, that he attacked through unlawful means. it would be needed to supersize this misdemeanor of financial fraud into a felony case. the trough defense has kind of said, well, maybe the da is being alarmist about what amounts to, however dirty, politics as usual. that is how they argue it. some proclaim there is nothing wrong with trying to influence and to collection. it is called democracy. the da h
david pecker has been admitting that. he recounts his dealing with the star witness michael cohen to buy in and bury stories, in order to protect president donald 's campaign. they allege an agreement to then hide financial footprints. they told the jury this will also be corroborated with evidence in , the defendant's own words, showing an illegal conspiracy. he said there is not an actual conspiracy charge in this case. that is true. the word conspiracy has a legal meaning and a more...
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david pecker did that. and on behalf of david pecker, he actually provided fodder for the prosecution to bolster everything he said a. once you establish that, it is easy for her to step in and say, i kept the rolodex and knew about some of the documents and the business records and for them to say this has been involved with these organizations. but i've been set up for mr. cohen that when he takes the stand he's only confirming. >> this comes after three days of testimony and you talk about david pecker, the former publisher of the national enquirer. will the hoping to establish and how engaged was the jury while listening to it? >> i was in the overflow room but the david pecker testimony was exactly what the prosecutors want to because he gave the foundation that everything that trump did -- everything that david pecker did after august 2015 when trump, michael cohen, and david pecker met and huddled and came up with a catch and kill scheme. all of this was in furtherance of the trump campaign and to he
david pecker did that. and on behalf of david pecker, he actually provided fodder for the prosecution to bolster everything he said a. once you establish that, it is easy for her to step in and say, i kept the rolodex and knew about some of the documents and the business records and for them to say this has been involved with these organizations. but i've been set up for mr. cohen that when he takes the stand he's only confirming. >> this comes after three days of testimony and you talk...
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pecker, who was back on the stand for his fourth day of testimony during trump's attorney, emile bove as questioning of the former national enquirer publisher. he attempted to discredit one of the prosecution's key witnesses, trump's x personally the attorney michael cohen. he asked pecker if you felt cohen was prone to exaggeration. pecker agreed he was after court. trump weighed in on the trial, eight days that we sitting in courthouse. i just want to thank hey, everybody for being here michelle for through this, like everybody else. >> michael cohen's banker took the stand on friday afternoon, explaining to the dreo he helped set up a bank account for the shell company that cohen ultimately used to transfer the $130,000 payment stormy daniels, there's no court on monday, but the banker will be back on the stand tuesday, answering question from prosecutors before trump's lawyers get a turn at him. kara scannell, cnn, new york and coming up former us attorney general, bill barr says donald trump should not be anywhere near the oval office, yet he still plans to vote for him assignmen
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what you heard from david pecker was about that agreement, that donald trump, david pecker, and michael cohen had to unlawfully influence the election. and they talked about and testified about this 2016 meeting where they anticipated that women may come forward and have damaging stories about trump that could hurt the campaign. david pecker testified that he was going to be the eyes and ears of this campaign, and that he was going to alert michael cohen and the campaign about anything that would be damaging so, to make sure those stories didn't see the light of day. however, what is really significant, for the conversations pecker testified, dealing directly with donald trump. both before the election and after the election. before the election, testified about talking to him about the story, trying to kill the story with karen mcdougal. after the election, he testified about conversations where donald trump thanked him for making sure those damaging stories did not see the light of day. the defense tried to act as though this was all business as usual, but that really backfired, becau
what you heard from david pecker was about that agreement, that donald trump, david pecker, and michael cohen had to unlawfully influence the election. and they talked about and testified about this 2016 meeting where they anticipated that women may come forward and have damaging stories about trump that could hurt the campaign. david pecker testified that he was going to be the eyes and ears of this campaign, and that he was going to alert michael cohen and the campaign about anything that...
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david pecker has no information about a crime against trump. you heard tabloid goes -- gossip, soap opera drama, and i'm going to be honest with you, the president is quite happy with the first week. one other point. what you heard about president trump, other celebrities in order to if protect their brand had this same experience with david pecker. to so i'll challenge any attorney to show me any evidence against trump that was developed last week. there was nothing. bryan: so the prosecution is looking at david perk as their first -- pecker as their first witness, and there are the analysis lists saying he set the base for the central argument of their case which is this was the about election interference. these payments weren't about trying to hide salacious details that would harm the reputation of his family or himself, but this was about making sure that his 2016 campaign was not stymied by this salacious stuff. that was the purpose of david peck or going out there -- pecker going out there and starting this case. are you saying at the d
david pecker has no information about a crime against trump. you heard tabloid goes -- gossip, soap opera drama, and i'm going to be honest with you, the president is quite happy with the first week. one other point. what you heard about president trump, other celebrities in order to if protect their brand had this same experience with david pecker. to so i'll challenge any attorney to show me any evidence against trump that was developed last week. there was nothing. bryan: so the prosecution...
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. >> former tabloid publisher and longtime trump friend david pecker, wrapped up more than ten hours of testimony. jurors also heard from trump's former longtime personal assistant rhona graff, as well as michael cohen's banker, who arranged his home equity line of credit, which cohen used to pay stormy daniels $130,000 in hush money. cnn's paula reid has more so we have another day or or freezing courthouse. it's very cold. the former president donald trump's still not warming up to the reality of being on trial in the new york hush money case. >> today in court, david pecker, the former publisher of the national enquirer, was back on the witness stand, tying pecker is non-prosecution agreement with federal prosecutors to an agreement he made to sell the national enquirer ideal contingent on the investigation into his company being resolved from a timing standpoint, it would have added onto the stress of the transaction. pecker testified they also tried to show how pecker had other reasons since beyond just helping trump win the white house for running negative stories about trump's
. >> former tabloid publisher and longtime trump friend david pecker, wrapped up more than ten hours of testimony. jurors also heard from trump's former longtime personal assistant rhona graff, as well as michael cohen's banker, who arranged his home equity line of credit, which cohen used to pay stormy daniels $130,000 in hush money. cnn's paula reid has more so we have another day or or freezing courthouse. it's very cold. the former president donald trump's still not warming up to the...
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by david pecker, by the paper, and in other words, they are not relying on them. also making it clear this is about the campaign, nothing else. >> so tim, pecker agreed the story about astar, and it was gold. it could have been taken to the bank. what is the significant of this ? and what is the extent of the sacrifice that pecker was making to help trump? >> he was making a big financial sacrifice, alex. it certainly would be better if it has a screaming headline about the extramarital affair. and rather than crimped that story. he agrees not to and directly benefiting the trump campaign. the significance of that, that is the underlying crime. and the reason for the falsification of the records. the government has to approve that these records were falsified for the underlying purpose for protecting the campaign. they were effectively campaign contributions. and invoices for legal services. so while the former president is not being charged for the affair, he is being charged for something that benefits his campaign and essentially hiding that. that is why the te
by david pecker, by the paper, and in other words, they are not relying on them. also making it clear this is about the campaign, nothing else. >> so tim, pecker agreed the story about astar, and it was gold. it could have been taken to the bank. what is the significant of this ? and what is the extent of the sacrifice that pecker was making to help trump? >> he was making a big financial sacrifice, alex. it certainly would be better if it has a screaming headline about the...
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david pecker . correct. court cannot be back in session until tuesday but the breakdown is happening right now. running me is joyce vance and hugo lowell. we were in new york at the same time for this title. david credibility. he was saying donald trump, he considered to be his mentor. yet, to his credit, even on cross examination by the defense attorney for donald trump, david pecker stood his ground. he held the line and said this was all to help influence the outcome by benefiting donald trump's campaign. >> "the national enquirer" wanted to protect this trump and this came through all through the testimony. it was extremely significant because trump was hoping or trumps lawyers were hoping to a certain extent they would be able to suggest that he was disgruntled, that they hadn't been friends for some time. they didn't have close connections anymore. but, with david pecker going on the stand and say i find as a mentor and i like his business deals and consider him a good guy as far as he was concerned, i
david pecker . correct. court cannot be back in session until tuesday but the breakdown is happening right now. running me is joyce vance and hugo lowell. we were in new york at the same time for this title. david credibility. he was saying donald trump, he considered to be his mentor. yet, to his credit, even on cross examination by the defense attorney for donald trump, david pecker stood his ground. he held the line and said this was all to help influence the outcome by benefiting donald...
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and now, ex-media mogul, david pecker, testified for days for his alleged hush money payments to former playmate mcdougall and stormy daniels who both claimed to have sexual relations with trump, something that trump denies. exposing that pecker testified that trump thanked him for concealing stories, in 2018, the fbi told them that trump didn't thank him. and ronna graph took the stand on friday. she testified she vaguely remembers seeing daniels at trump tower once. and when the court resumes on tuesday, bank executive gary farrow will return to the stand. on friday he testified that michael cohen, trump's ex-fixer wired $130,000 in hush money to stormy daniels right before election day. meanwhile, few people think that trump is treated the same as other criminal defendants here in new york. a new cnn poll finds that 34% say trump is being treated more leniently. another 34% say no, more harshly. now, trump faces a slew of legal troubles outside of new york city, including federal charges that he conspired to overturn the 2020 election. trump has claimed presidential immunity, somethi
and now, ex-media mogul, david pecker, testified for days for his alleged hush money payments to former playmate mcdougall and stormy daniels who both claimed to have sexual relations with trump, something that trump denies. exposing that pecker testified that trump thanked him for concealing stories, in 2018, the fbi told them that trump didn't thank him. and ronna graph took the stand on friday. she testified she vaguely remembers seeing daniels at trump tower once. and when the court resumes...
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news gold for david pecker because that was his stock in trade. they were trying to portray that this was just more of that and in the opening statements, donald trump's lawyers actually said that they tried to -- trying to influence -- is democracy. that's what people try and do. what was different about this and what the government lawyers were showing is that during the election, the arrangements that were reach and karen google who is the playmate that donald trump had a relationship with, nine months or a year, these payments that went to karen make google and others were larger than usual. the national enquirer national -- have a limit of $10,000. these went well over that. in the case of karen mcdougal, they had a contract with her and that was according to david pecker solely to keep her story off the market but she did in signing that get other things with the agreement. she got, you know, she would have a column, she would get on the cover of a magazine. david pecker said that was all window dressing for the payment to keep her quiet but
news gold for david pecker because that was his stock in trade. they were trying to portray that this was just more of that and in the opening statements, donald trump's lawyers actually said that they tried to -- trying to influence -- is democracy. that's what people try and do. what was different about this and what the government lawyers were showing is that during the election, the arrangements that were reach and karen google who is the playmate that donald trump had a relationship with,...
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will: and it's new york versus trump returning on tuesday after ex-tabloid publisher david pecker claimed he never if used the term catch and kill with the former president. carley: plus, more americans say they're being shamed into tipping even for coffees and self-service kiosks. we have your responses on tip-flation. the final hour of "fox & friends" weekend starts right now. will: to a fox weather alert. right now 55 million americans r alert one day after massive tornadoes tore across america's heartland. carley: at least 59 twist thers in texas, kansas, oklahoma, iowa and the hardest hit state has been nebraska. pete: fox weather's nicole valdes is in ilkhorn -- elkhorn, nebraska, with more. >> reporter: good morning. look, it's a sad day here where there are dozens of homes without a wall standing like the one you see behind me. check it out. i mean, this is so sad to see. actually, a newer home just it should a few months ago now ripped to shreds by the sheer force of a monster tornado that has now devastated dozens of families across the state of nebraska. neighbors here just now
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carley: jurors hearing testimony from david pecker, a former trump assistant and a former senior bank manager who worked closely with former trump lawyer michael cohen. will: good morning, david. >> good morning. two weeks of the first ever criminal trial involving an ex-president in the books and busy day yesterday to wrap up the week with more testimony and we mentioned from trump friend and former national inquirer publisher david pecker. pecker is alleged to trust worthy bought former play mate karen mcdougle story and the intent never to publish and practice called catch and kill. lawyer with the former president and whether or not trump faced him with suppressing story and he may have violated federal election law and suppressing ms. pecker said i've been truthful to the best of my recollection. trump's long time executive assistant took the stand yesterday, that's her right there. said her boss of about 30 years was fair and respectful. graph said she haggly remembers seeing stormy daniels in trump tower before the 2016 election and daniels claims she had an affair with donald
carley: jurors hearing testimony from david pecker, a former trump assistant and a former senior bank manager who worked closely with former trump lawyer michael cohen. will: good morning, david. >> good morning. two weeks of the first ever criminal trial involving an ex-president in the books and busy day yesterday to wrap up the week with more testimony and we mentioned from trump friend and former national inquirer publisher david pecker. pecker is alleged to trust worthy bought former...
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pecker, which david pecker explained very well what that is for the purpose of affecting the 2016 election, as opposed to for the purpose of protecting his family from embarrassment, it's the intent that's the issue. >> okay. so gag order now, there's a hearing scheduled for thursday to hear the legations of 14 violations of the gag order this has been delayed at least from some legal experts that we've discussed with. >> why is this taking so long they were first a few and then before those were settled, there was another grouping. >> what's the impact of the delay? >> you know, what if you're a cynic on this one which maybe i'm citing in this cynical the judge wants to get more examples before ruling on the gag order, right? even more. agree. just examples because at this point, really the judge could absolutely rural and i don't understand other than that, just trying to get more examples of how this gag order is violated again and again and again, so that the judge is upheld on appeal on any on and usage and what really is the impact of of a gag order or the consequence of it if the ju
pecker, which david pecker explained very well what that is for the purpose of affecting the 2016 election, as opposed to for the purpose of protecting his family from embarrassment, it's the intent that's the issue. >> okay. so gag order now, there's a hearing scheduled for thursday to hear the legations of 14 violations of the gag order this has been delayed at least from some legal experts that we've discussed with. >> why is this taking so long they were first a few and then...
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so we did still get some compelling testimony from the remainder of david pecker's testimony, as well as those two other witnesses. one thing that is clear from the wheat when it says that we heard from miss that there was this conspiracy he to get this caching kill scheme, the catch and kill scheme to affect the campaign, to effect the election. in terms of the last two witnesses, we got confirmation from the banker that yes. michael cohen did open up an account. it open a shell company in order to get payment to stormy daniels. that's as far as we got in terms of the longtime assistant, all we heard is that we got confirmation that donald trump did have the contact information for karen mcdougal, as well as stormy daniels, and that stormy daniels was the at trump plaza at least on one occasion, but nothing that really stood out that was so bombshell that will stand out too. jury documentary evidence that he produced sort of establishing the timeline and the importance of getting those payments done before the election that will be crucial, right? absolutely. the urgency. so we learn
so we did still get some compelling testimony from the remainder of david pecker's testimony, as well as those two other witnesses. one thing that is clear from the wheat when it says that we heard from miss that there was this conspiracy he to get this caching kill scheme, the catch and kill scheme to affect the campaign, to effect the election. in terms of the last two witnesses, we got confirmation from the banker that yes. michael cohen did open up an account. it open a shell company in...
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jeff sessions because david pecker, this national enquirer tabloid king, he got concerned at one point when he got a letter from the fec and he called michael cohen, then trump's personal attorney to voice concern about that. michael cohen told him not to worry because geoff sessions is the attorney general and donald trump has him in his pocket. did trump expect his ag to go easy on his friends i don't know. i don't know what he expected what was your experience? >> my experience was why the time i came in, he did not he did not push me to do one thing or another on these criminal cases. now we tweeted and mavi, his public views on things known, but he never talked to me about them directly, so we did not have you in his pocket. he would argue it's not a question of arguing. i did what i thought was right. >> and you never felt any direct pressure from him on what investigations the doj you did not directly pressure may as i say, he was out there tweeting and doing things that were embarrassing and made it hard for me to run the department that sounds like pressure wasn't pressure. it
jeff sessions because david pecker, this national enquirer tabloid king, he got concerned at one point when he got a letter from the fec and he called michael cohen, then trump's personal attorney to voice concern about that. michael cohen told him not to worry because geoff sessions is the attorney general and donald trump has him in his pocket. did trump expect his ag to go easy on his friends i don't know. i don't know what he expected what was your experience? >> my experience was why...
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yeah, david pecker said he's done this for trump well beforsp 16. and david pecker testified that trump had no knowledgadge e of the payment by michael cohen. >> this case is this case is a dog. a that dog doesn't bark. isll and mikte have a great weekend. all right. apparently hamas is ha -suits i some new friends. we'll tell you about them. is it because they see ♪ew recruitsn amer? america? i'm curious. we'll explain it nex t. hello, i'm former arkansas governor mike huckabee. a lot of times you can't control the amount of sleep that you're getting. you can't fall asleep. you're tossing and turning all night. you can't get the sleep you need to stay healthy. i know it's scary unless you use relaxium sleep relaxium. sleep is a product that's made from natural ingredients and it usually works from the very first night. you try. it helps you fall asleep, stay asleep and wake up refreshed, earning your body those quality hours sleep that it desperately needs. join the hundreds of thousands of people who have experienced the relief and health benefi
yeah, david pecker said he's done this for trump well beforsp 16. and david pecker testified that trump had no knowledgadge e of the payment by michael cohen. >> this case is this case is a dog. a that dog doesn't bark. isll and mikte have a great weekend. all right. apparently hamas is ha -suits i some new friends. we'll tell you about them. is it because they see ♪ew recruitsn amer? america? i'm curious. we'll explain it nex t. hello, i'm former arkansas governor mike huckabee. a lot...
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they got david pecker to say michael cohen is prone to exaggeration. and so they're going to do that by the way, with a lot of other witnesses. if kellyanne conway takes the stand i bet she has negative things to say about michael cohen. maybe hope hicks two. and what you do as a defense lawyer, not my profession, ards, but i've seen enough good ones inaction when it comes down for closing go folks. their own witnesses, the first guy they put in front of you, david pecker, said that their star witness is prone to exaggeration if you find that he exactly related to this case is over. so that's a really smart and effective tactic like michael cohen can be restored as the star witness so easily because people forget or maybe don't forget that he pled guilty to the same scheme that trump is now being put on trial for and people generally as a defense lawyer do not plead guilty to things they didn't do. that plea is locked in. he took a three-year jail sentence for the acts that he claimed in open court when he entered his plea. i did this at the direction
they got david pecker to say michael cohen is prone to exaggeration. and so they're going to do that by the way, with a lot of other witnesses. if kellyanne conway takes the stand i bet she has negative things to say about michael cohen. maybe hope hicks two. and what you do as a defense lawyer, not my profession, ards, but i've seen enough good ones inaction when it comes down for closing go folks. their own witnesses, the first guy they put in front of you, david pecker, said that their star...
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so the last question asked of david pecker today was, does he believe trump does david pecker believes that donald trump cares about his family, right? there have been a lot of questions about why trump would do these things. was it to protect his family or as pecker said? was it for the campaign, but the last question, does trump care about his family? pecker replies, quote, of of course i do think that cares about his family. that surprised you very much so because trump thinks about trump and his family clearly throughout all this is almost been window the dressing just so it makes him look like he's a family guy, but his focus is always been what's best for me. >> that's why he picks the pupil who works with and that's why he's been doing when he just doing with the power play. so the family for politician, obviously it's unnecessary optic to have but his feeling towards them. no, they're just tools for him to advance his own cause and that moment surprised you mean bernardo at the end of the testimony of david pecker and i guess it's in a sense, it's hard to put it together hi the
so the last question asked of david pecker today was, does he believe trump does david pecker believes that donald trump cares about his family, right? there have been a lot of questions about why trump would do these things. was it to protect his family or as pecker said? was it for the campaign, but the last question, does trump care about his family? pecker replies, quote, of of course i do think that cares about his family. that surprised you very much so because trump thinks about trump...
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david pecker was defined at one point, saying "i've been truthful to the best of my recollection ." the tabloid mogul also undermined the idea that trump wanted to bury those stories about women to protect his family, a common refrain from the defense. instead, he said he believed it was all to protect his campaign. >> i do have to begin by wishing melania trump happy birthday. >> reporter: melania trump was notably absent at trial. >> court will not based on session monday so the trial resumes tuesday at 9:30. with that, let's bring in our leadoff panel, john allen, politics reporter for nbc. eugene scott, senior politics reporter fracks yes, and the former federal prosecutor and senior writer for political magazine. thank you for joining us. trump's former longtime executive assistant testified for half an hour. she was known as "the gatekeeper" and set a company directory and numbers for stormy daniels and karen mcdougal. she also said the trump organization was paying her legal bills. why, what did the prosecution gain from her testimony? >> they introduced a small fact, which i
david pecker was defined at one point, saying "i've been truthful to the best of my recollection ." the tabloid mogul also undermined the idea that trump wanted to bury those stories about women to protect his family, a common refrain from the defense. instead, he said he believed it was all to protect his campaign. >> i do have to begin by wishing melania trump happy birthday. >> reporter: melania trump was notably absent at trial. >> court will not based on session...
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david pecker may have done. to they're trying to attribute david's packers knowledgeinance of campaign finance violations to donald trump. there shouldn' vdonaldt been a e instruction right then and there by the court there tht cannot assume that because david pecker knew something that donal that d trump knew its but this is this is the kind of case that an inexperienced political operative is trying ae in manhattan. and let me just say one more thing. thisin m gag order. the gag order was to make sureti that the president did not make or direct others to make o a public statement. when donald trump repeats untruths. i so so what other people have said he is not makinnot makig oe directing them to make public statements. and that's why he is not h holding him in contempt yet because it is so written. these people are so incensed, so full of hatl of hate that tho anything to keep this man down. and ye anyt he goes outside, he talks to construction workers, he goes to a bodega, they cheer him. he goes to kentucky
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witness, david pecker, largely stood his ground despite trump's legal team attempting to undermine his testimony by claiming the deals to bury stories like karen mcdougal and stormy daniels were standard operating procedure. the second witness, donald trump's former executive assistant, monograph, provided testimony that she entered karen mcdougal's and stormy daniels contact information to the trump organization database. third, we had gary ferro, former manager at first republic bank, which prosecutors say michael: used to obtain a $130,000 home equity loan which michael cohen later funneled to stormy daniels through a shell company. friday, he authenticated bank records which prosecutors showed to jurors. that testimony will continue in trial resumes tuesday morning. prosecutors are using his testimony to authenticate documents related to the transaction. that testimony continues when the trial resumes tuesday morning. judge merchan announced a gag order hearing will take place thursday, to hear new arguments about all of the alleged violations that donald trump has committed this w
witness, david pecker, largely stood his ground despite trump's legal team attempting to undermine his testimony by claiming the deals to bury stories like karen mcdougal and stormy daniels were standard operating procedure. the second witness, donald trump's former executive assistant, monograph, provided testimony that she entered karen mcdougal's and stormy daniels contact information to the trump organization database. third, we had gary ferro, former manager at first republic bank, which...
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on cross-examination of david pecker today? >> the core of his he's a vehicle by the prosecution to set the stage and just talk about this august 2015 meeting in which this catch and kill conspiracy as the prosecution has laid it out, began where he met with donald trump and michael cohen. so they were trying to go back to that meeting and suggests that it was just like businesses usual, it was standard operating procedure for the national enquirer. so aiml beauvais want to trump's defense lawyers had asked pecker on the stan i want you i want to stick with the august 2015 trump tower meeting. pecker says yes, beauvais says, at that meeting, the concept of catch-and-kill was not discussed, correct? pecker said that's correct but they asked and then there was no discussion of a financial dimension to any agreement at that meeting, correct? pecker said, yes, that's correct. so trying to say that there was no blatant conversation about a catch and kill and that i'm going to buy the deals now on redirect with the prosecution, they
on cross-examination of david pecker today? >> the core of his he's a vehicle by the prosecution to set the stage and just talk about this august 2015 meeting in which this catch and kill conspiracy as the prosecution has laid it out, began where he met with donald trump and michael cohen. so they were trying to go back to that meeting and suggests that it was just like businesses usual, it was standard operating procedure for the national enquirer. so aiml beauvais want to trump's...
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it was david pecker who testified. and explained how this whole thing worked to buy and bury negative stories through the tabloids to boost the campaign. was that your purpose locking up the story about the play mate to influence the election? and he confirmed yes. pecker details how they worked with cohen. we will show you headlines that are for the most part false. a false allegation about then trump competitor marco rubio. another one. i can show you. let me look at the next one. infamously going after ted cruz. pecker testifying that story was knowingly manufactured. right down to the doctored photo. however bad it looks they said it was not a trump campaign thing. it is just how they roll. they brought up arnold schwarzenegger and that deal. pecker said the agreement i had with arnold is i would advise him about stories out there. acquire them. buy them for a period of time. defense highlighting cohen didn't pay him back for the mcdougal story to get jurors to doubt if this was a trump campaign thing. i spoke to h
it was david pecker who testified. and explained how this whole thing worked to buy and bury negative stories through the tabloids to boost the campaign. was that your purpose locking up the story about the play mate to influence the election? and he confirmed yes. pecker details how they worked with cohen. we will show you headlines that are for the most part false. a false allegation about then trump competitor marco rubio. another one. i can show you. let me look at the next one. infamously...
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the prosecution starts with the blockbuster witness, david pecker. now they are moving into the nitty-gritty. what kind of strategy goes into the sequence here? >> i think it is largely chronological, so far, as i can see it. they are just trying to lay out, tell the story in a simple chronological fashion, the best way to tell a story often is chronologically. but, i think that is what is happening here. i expect at some point, perhaps even next week, they are going to need to start to move into, okay, how are these records, how are these payments booked internally within the trump organization. maybe next week or the following week, at some point, the trial needs to get there. that is the meat and potatoes of the actual charges against trump. >> eugene, trump keeps complaining about the trial keeping him off the campaign trail and wednesday, when, you know, wednesday was his one day off from court this week, and he went golfing. obviously, he doesn't want to be in court but is it fair to say he doesn't seem to care that much about campaigning eithe
the prosecution starts with the blockbuster witness, david pecker. now they are moving into the nitty-gritty. what kind of strategy goes into the sequence here? >> i think it is largely chronological, so far, as i can see it. they are just trying to lay out, tell the story in a simple chronological fashion, the best way to tell a story often is chronologically. but, i think that is what is happening here. i expect at some point, perhaps even next week, they are going to need to start to...
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it had david pecker who wrapped up more than ten hours or testimony over a period of four days, he was as also trump's former longtime assistant, rhona graff, who was only on the stand for what, a half an hour, then michael cohen's former banker, gary farro, who is likely to continue testifying this coming tuesday the prosecution wants jurist remember, pecker's testimony that his intention was to never publish karen mcdougal story of an alleged affair with trump from the transcript, he said, had you published a story about a playboy model having a year long sexual affair while he was married with a presidential candidate without that have sold magazines. see if think his answer. >> yes, that'd be like national enquirer gold. >> yes. >> going on to say and despite the fact that publishing that story would have helped your bottom line, you killed the story because it helped the candidate donald trump yes and then there was a rhona graff, trump's longtime gatekeeper over at the trump organization. >> her desk was at one point just outside of trump's office from the defensive standpoint, s
it had david pecker who wrapped up more than ten hours or testimony over a period of four days, he was as also trump's former longtime assistant, rhona graff, who was only on the stand for what, a half an hour, then michael cohen's former banker, gary farro, who is likely to continue testifying this coming tuesday the prosecution wants jurist remember, pecker's testimony that his intention was to never publish karen mcdougal story of an alleged affair with trump from the transcript, he said,...
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let's go back to the idea of david pecker. the defense team, the trump team was trying to make this come across as standard. this catch and kill idea is standard, happens to a lot of people. and pecker was saying this was actually in furtherance of something more serious. this wasn't the typical catch a story and kill it. there are probably reasons why you would take on a story, pay somebody for it and kill it, but pecker said the unfinished part and this was in furtherance of what donald trump was trying to achieve. >> absolutely and that came across on redirect examination. what happened was the defense attorney has presented what one would call the casablanca defense. there is gambling. ami does this over and over again, that they by people stories. not unusual. in the prosecutor on redirect honed in on the differences. that there has never, even though they have, ami has quashed stories of celebrities and even political figures in the past, they have never been the eyes and ears of a presidential campaign. they have never
let's go back to the idea of david pecker. the defense team, the trump team was trying to make this come across as standard. this catch and kill idea is standard, happens to a lot of people. and pecker was saying this was actually in furtherance of something more serious. this wasn't the typical catch a story and kill it. there are probably reasons why you would take on a story, pay somebody for it and kill it, but pecker said the unfinished part and this was in furtherance of what donald trump...
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and also collaborates david pecker, right? go back to how we for sure everything is about repetition right? and primacy and recency. thinking about what are the your marks have things that a song and it gets in your ear a great sermon, a great speech. it's all about repetition. and so the more you hear it, the more it goes into the brain of the jurors that you believe it. so david pecker this episode is already and said, listen, i wasn't paying for this. i didn't want to do that. but he also wanted to have a shell company wanted to have i don't want a direct line between the trump organization in me. i ultimately rep. if his contract, all that stuff. now the jury is thinking, oh, wait, you know what i've heard this before. now it rings true to me. you know, what's another bit of repetition you're going to keep hearing and you heard today on that debt that i told you the words, porn star, and it is in the interest of the defense. >> keep reminding the jury about what the jobs are of these people, what they are doing and seeking
and also collaborates david pecker, right? go back to how we for sure everything is about repetition right? and primacy and recency. thinking about what are the your marks have things that a song and it gets in your ear a great sermon, a great speech. it's all about repetition. and so the more you hear it, the more it goes into the brain of the jurors that you believe it. so david pecker this episode is already and said, listen, i wasn't paying for this. i didn't want to do that. but he also...
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david pecker, donald trump. michael cohen is a staffer to use nicolle wallace's term. he is not a principal in this. you have the national enquirer and you have donald trump, they are making the decisions. that is important and he tells you how it began, how it was carried out and how it ended. he also gives you why it is a felony and why you should care. what i mean by why it is a felony, remember this would be a misdemeanor if it is not to conceal or further some other crime and he tells you it is election fraud. >> full on. >> up one side and down the other. so the only piece that is really missing is sort of the false business records. so the piece that you still need, obviously there are false business records, but you need to have knowledge that donald trump knew that would have to be part of the scheme. that shouldn't be that hard, because if you're trying to keep this secret and david pecker already said he wanted to keep it secret even within the national enquirer. why? because it is a crime. so you are not going to want to have a whole bunch of records thing
david pecker, donald trump. michael cohen is a staffer to use nicolle wallace's term. he is not a principal in this. you have the national enquirer and you have donald trump, they are making the decisions. that is important and he tells you how it began, how it was carried out and how it ended. he also gives you why it is a felony and why you should care. what i mean by why it is a felony, remember this would be a misdemeanor if it is not to conceal or further some other crime and he tells you...
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so, david pecker testified. he consulted with an election attorney, a special attorney who does election law. and then he ran the karen mcdougal agreement by his own company's general counsel, their top lawyer. now, both of those are privileged conversations between attorney and client so david pecker didn't go into details. but, a prosecutor asked him based on that conversation, did you come to the decision you no longer wanted to be reimbursed for the money that ami had laid out to acquire karen mcdougal's lifetime rate ? david pecker responded, "yes, that is correct." "i called michael cohen, i said the agreement, the assignment deal is off. i'm not going forward. it is a bad idea. i want you to rip up the agreement. " in other words, david pecker had a brush with this in the past, campaign finance law and how it is located in a catch and kill scheme for a candidate, thought about them doing the same thing here, had a talk with his lawyer, decided receiving the money for the express purpose of paying off trum
so, david pecker testified. he consulted with an election attorney, a special attorney who does election law. and then he ran the karen mcdougal agreement by his own company's general counsel, their top lawyer. now, both of those are privileged conversations between attorney and client so david pecker didn't go into details. but, a prosecutor asked him based on that conversation, did you come to the decision you no longer wanted to be reimbursed for the money that ami had laid out to acquire...
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barry, i'm wondering, i'm a, you know, david pecker obviously. well, you worked with the enquirer for a long time. you had some involvement with that doorman's story. how do you what do you make of him as a witness? >> well, listen, i was there anderson for 17 years. i was actually the first editorial higher for david pecker back in 1999 it's certainly troubling to be to be watching this unfold in thinking back to the great years of breaking so many great stories, john edwards, tiger woods jesse jackson's paternity of a child i was i left the inquire after the doorman's story two months before the karen mcdougal story, before they got involved with that. and the last trump's story that i did work on was the doorman's story and david pecker was absolutely right. had that story turned out to be true, and he published it, it would have been a mega sale it might have sold millions of copies. >> did you know that he was going to kill it if it turned out, regardless of what it turned out. well, listen, i mean, i remember going back to 2010 when i knew
barry, i'm wondering, i'm a, you know, david pecker obviously. well, you worked with the enquirer for a long time. you had some involvement with that doorman's story. how do you what do you make of him as a witness? >> well, listen, i was there anderson for 17 years. i was actually the first editorial higher for david pecker back in 1999 it's certainly troubling to be to be watching this unfold in thinking back to the great years of breaking so many great stories, john edwards, tiger...
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pecker helped more. >> david pecker definitely helped the prosecution out because they laid out david pecker hur laid out the foundation. he gave us the background information, and he also changed the narrative. this is not just hush money case. we're talking about the purpose of this money. of killing di stories. what's that help this campaign? and you're hearing it from someone that i think was relatable to this jury. i think the jury's going to find him credible, find, and believable. so mendel, he was engaging in these catching kill schemes and when we go into a supermarket used to see the national enquirer be like, oh, my god. and now we know how that gets to be the front page of the paper. you got the information that this is exactly how it worked out when it came to donald trump and when it came to michael cohen. and this is something that i think the jury in plain terms, are able to digest and they don't know how to apply this information. but shortly after closing arguments and though extra read back to get more of his testimony, read back, there'll be able to put it all toge
pecker helped more. >> david pecker definitely helped the prosecution out because they laid out david pecker hur laid out the foundation. he gave us the background information, and he also changed the narrative. this is not just hush money case. we're talking about the purpose of this money. of killing di stories. what's that help this campaign? and you're hearing it from someone that i think was relatable to this jury. i think the jury's going to find him credible, find, and believable....
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today was the final day of the prosecutor's first witness, david pecker. trump's lawyers continued their cross-examination, focusing on the theme that the catch and kill agreement made between pecker, trump, and trump's former lawyer michael cohen was just standard operating procedure for pecker and "national enquirer." they suggested pecker's actions were based on business considerations and he would have done them anyway whether or not he had an agreement with trump. for instance, pecker admitted to trump's lawyer that the $30,000 payment to buy the rights for the former doorman's false story that trump fathered an illegitimate child could have led to millions of dollars in sales for the "national enquirer" if true. he asked and that is why you decided to pay mr. sajudin $30,000, correct? pecker answered, yes. bovee, because you could not have him taking his story to another publication if it was true, right? pecker, that's correct. bove, it would be too great a loss to ami to lose control of such a story if it were true, right? >> yes. they had yet to e
today was the final day of the prosecutor's first witness, david pecker. trump's lawyers continued their cross-examination, focusing on the theme that the catch and kill agreement made between pecker, trump, and trump's former lawyer michael cohen was just standard operating procedure for pecker and "national enquirer." they suggested pecker's actions were based on business considerations and he would have done them anyway whether or not he had an agreement with trump. for instance,...
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and david pecker's testimony didn't help the prosecution. and it was particularly delicious, i thought, to see how uncomfortable one cnn host got when one of his guests spoke the truth about the case. >> he is taking the wind out of the prosecution's sales and said showing there was this relationship that had nothing to do with sort of a quid pro quo. >> confirm the concept of catch and kill was not talked about at the august 2015 meeting at trump tower that's correct pecker said. >> bove doing a great job of bringing out facts that undermine. >> confirm that trump and cohen did not pay story former door man at trump power tower. >> laura: well, got to interrupt when you don't want where it's going. they are getting nervous. the lawfare being waged against trump seems to be totally back firing. and so disappointed common tartsd who kind of bet the farm on this, are just left sputtering. even and this was really great this morning. offering nasty jabs after trump's sweet birthday greetings to melania. >> what they want to point out wish his w
and david pecker's testimony didn't help the prosecution. and it was particularly delicious, i thought, to see how uncomfortable one cnn host got when one of his guests spoke the truth about the case. >> he is taking the wind out of the prosecution's sales and said showing there was this relationship that had nothing to do with sort of a quid pro quo. >> confirm the concept of catch and kill was not talked about at the august 2015 meeting at trump tower that's correct pecker said....
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i think the other thing is that david pecker really explained the insides of the scheme. in other words, he explained that why it is that the national enquirer was paying money for the doorman scheme. he was paying money for the karen mcdougal scheme but at some point they said, you we're done being the bank. we are no longer sort of your bank for paying off these people in the caching kill& that explains why it is that michael cohen had to take out this home equity loan that we were hearing about just as the testimony was ending today and explain that difference. now, there's why it is that the national enquirer wasn't paying for this third and final scheme with respect to stormy daniels, but it had to be paid for by michael cohen. so i think that is a very important new detail that we heard that helped flesh out the scheme that we, the basics of which we knew about your book breaks down the very colorful cast of characters in this specific case, but not necessarily trump's assisted rhona graff and michael cohen's banker, gary farro. these lower profile voices set up the
i think the other thing is that david pecker really explained the insides of the scheme. in other words, he explained that why it is that the national enquirer was paying money for the doorman scheme. he was paying money for the karen mcdougal scheme but at some point they said, you we're done being the bank. we are no longer sort of your bank for paying off these people in the caching kill& that explains why it is that michael cohen had to take out this home equity loan that we were...
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. >> david pecker, the ceo of america media inc. giving bombshell testimony. >> pecker tells him, quote, we committed campaign violation. he said he wasn't worried because, quote, jeff sessions is the attorney general and donald trump has him in his pocket. >> david pecker acknowledged that he did this catch and kill with karen mcdougall for the benefit of the trump campaign. >> the defense spent hours trying to trip him up, catch him in contradictions. >> senior vice president of the trump organization and donald trump's former long-time assistant described as the gatekeeper. his right hand. her lawyers are being paid for by donald trump. >> you heard that word, gatekeeper. the gatekeepers and supposed allies and friends are talking under oath. the da's getting details out of them to bolster the opening argument where the jury was told cases about a criminal conspiracy and a cover up. tabloid veteran david pecker has been admitting that. he recounts his dealings with trump lawyer turned star witness michael cohen to buy and bury st
. >> david pecker, the ceo of america media inc. giving bombshell testimony. >> pecker tells him, quote, we committed campaign violation. he said he wasn't worried because, quote, jeff sessions is the attorney general and donald trump has him in his pocket. >> david pecker acknowledged that he did this catch and kill with karen mcdougall for the benefit of the trump campaign. >> the defense spent hours trying to trip him up, catch him in contradictions. >> senior...
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trump has not criticized david pecker at all. i want to ask you before you go, because yesterday we saw i made a major court ruling completely separate from the trump case also on a subject that you've broken a lot of stories about and you think it could ultimately manner for trump the new york court of appeals overturned harvey weinstein's 2020 eviction for sex crimes basically, the court said that the lower court made a mistake by allowing women to testify about allegations of sexual assault that we're separate from the three for which he was actually charged in that case, you are at the forefront of investigating, reporting a multitude of allegations against weinstein. you say this ruling could come back to haunt trump's judge juan merchan in trump's trial, explain well, it illuminates a shared legal issue that is at the heart of both of these cases of course, for activists and for survivors of harvey weinstein's alleged crimes it's an anguished moment, to hear that one of his conviction was overturned on essentially a questio
trump has not criticized david pecker at all. i want to ask you before you go, because yesterday we saw i made a major court ruling completely separate from the trump case also on a subject that you've broken a lot of stories about and you think it could ultimately manner for trump the new york court of appeals overturned harvey weinstein's 2020 eviction for sex crimes basically, the court said that the lower court made a mistake by allowing women to testify about allegations of sexual assault...
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the answer from david pecker, quote, yes. he added, the actual purpose was to acquire lifetime rights so it was not published by any other news organization. pecker said it was standard to suppress stories to help a friend or to use as leverage with a celebrity, this was catch and kill in order to influence a presidential election. now with court adjourned for the weekend, it's all systems go as we head into next week with key testimony still ahead. this is where we start the hour with some of our most favorite reports and friends. two people inside the courtroom today, investigative reporter susan craig and former u.s. attorney and former deputy assistant attorney general harry litman. lucky for us, andrew is still here as is lockland. sue, we start with you and your wonderful notebook. >> i have to say i think the most interesting part of today was the contination of that agreement that karen mcdougal had. donald trump's lawyers really tried to muddy the water on it. put some poison in the ear that karen mcdougal got someth
the answer from david pecker, quote, yes. he added, the actual purpose was to acquire lifetime rights so it was not published by any other news organization. pecker said it was standard to suppress stories to help a friend or to use as leverage with a celebrity, this was catch and kill in order to influence a presidential election. now with court adjourned for the weekend, it's all systems go as we head into next week with key testimony still ahead. this is where we start the hour with some of...
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she was paid $150,000 but they had apparently david pecker had an election attorney look at this. this deal was going on. >> i think right before the 2016 election as well. yeah. well, it the implication would be that there was no actual election law violation as a result of these types of deals. right. so he has a lawyer ticket over. apparently the lawyer blessed it. right. and the deal with stormy daniels is strictly shuffle actually very, very similar, right? so that's sort of the implication. i don't think it actually is that potent of an observation. i don't i doubt we're going to hear from that lawyer in the course of this trial, which would be necessary to actually make that useful. >> let's let's go to our attorneys outside the room right now. i'll start with bill brennan. what's your what's your big takeaway from today if anything or if you want to look at the week in general, if if any gloves were laid on mr. trump or not? >> jake, i really don't think so. i heard on kush layout a scenario and certainly he could be correct with regard to actions taken in furtherance of a
she was paid $150,000 but they had apparently david pecker had an election attorney look at this. this deal was going on. >> i think right before the 2016 election as well. yeah. well, it the implication would be that there was no actual election law violation as a result of these types of deals. right. so he has a lawyer ticket over. apparently the lawyer blessed it. right. and the deal with stormy daniels is strictly shuffle actually very, very similar, right? so that's sort of the...
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david pecker and the national inquirerer. it seems like at some point we're going to get hope hicks whos was a member of the campaign and then the white house. and somebody who worked as a lawyer in the white house. what are you thinking? >> i think one thing i'm thinking is this is something we should actually celebrate in a way because it's our system working. what we're witnessing here is a court, which is the place that we go in our society to determine what is true, when it's contested, hearing evidence and weighing it under rules that are designed to protect everybody's rights. one of the things that has happened a lot in recent years in american politics is we have had a bit of anything goes in the truth in the court of public opinion. that's hard to pull off in the court of law. so to have this week a split screen in which in mand a former president is being treated like any other citizen in our society with all the protections afforded to them, having facts put out and a jury will decide his fate, at the same time wh
david pecker and the national inquirerer. it seems like at some point we're going to get hope hicks whos was a member of the campaign and then the white house. and somebody who worked as a lawyer in the white house. what are you thinking? >> i think one thing i'm thinking is this is something we should actually celebrate in a way because it's our system working. what we're witnessing here is a court, which is the place that we go in our society to determine what is true, when it's...
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>>>>case is really rises and falls with david peckers testimony because he is the linchpin behind. their theory of this sort of conspiratorial. scheme. to influence the election. >reporter>trump faces 34 felony counts of falsifying business records. he's accused of funneling so called hush money payments through michael cohen to adult film star stormy daniels before the 2016 election. >>>>it's not a crime if it wasn't done with the purpose of influencing the election. >reporter>the presumptive republican presidential nominee has repeatedly expressed frustration that the trial is keeping him off the campaign trail today, he expressed frustration that it's keeping him from celebrating his wife. melania's birthday. >ryan>and the former president also says he's been following the arguments as the serene court and his immunity case. calling his arguments were brilliant and the justices questions were great. still ahead at noon and streaming on cbs news bay area. housing bay area scientists are working to get a better understanding of our feathered. friends. and local artists are working
>>>>case is really rises and falls with david peckers testimony because he is the linchpin behind. their theory of this sort of conspiratorial. scheme. to influence the election. >reporter>trump faces 34 felony counts of falsifying business records. he's accused of funneling so called hush money payments through michael cohen to adult film star stormy daniels before the 2016 election. >>>>it's not a crime if it wasn't done with the purpose of influencing the...
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did were in the best interest of david packer he runs the organization he is a fiduciary duty to do so and a lot of the decisions that he made yes, they may have had an ancillary benefit of benefiting the campaign but they were to benefit ami and a in my pocketbook when i was in the courtroom as well memory was a big issue and you have heard a lot of the discussion for weeks now months about the statute of limitations why is the statute of limitations not in this case the statue limitations are important because our memories wane over time you want any trial that will adjudicate someone's guilt or innocence to be done as close to the time of the event in question we are talking about 2015 or 16 and 17 and the prosecution had an opportunity and this was admitted yesterday by david packer to sit down and train david packer on the testimony, what he was going to say on the stand so his testimony yesterday was pretty good it was pretty fluid for a 72-year-old man today and part of yesterday trump's attorneys got an opportunity to cross-examine and you saw the lapse in the memory you saw
did were in the best interest of david packer he runs the organization he is a fiduciary duty to do so and a lot of the decisions that he made yes, they may have had an ancillary benefit of benefiting the campaign but they were to benefit ami and a in my pocketbook when i was in the courtroom as well memory was a big issue and you have heard a lot of the discussion for weeks now months about the statute of limitations why is the statute of limitations not in this case the statue limitations are...
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former "national enquirer" ceo david pecker. the defense spent hours trying to trip him up, catch him in contradictions, even introducing several instances where they say pecker's recollection of key events had changed over time. but the prosecution got the last word before lunch, getting pecker to admit that karen mcdougal's story would have been "national enquirer" gold, and his decision not to run it was purely to help donald trump. joining me now, nbc's vaughn hillyard outside the courthouse, former federal prosecutor paul butler is back with me. former assistant new york attorney general tristan snell is in studio, and jeremy soland, criminal defense attorney and former manhattan prosecutor. i'm going to start with you because you're a defense attorney and you're new to this table. it's a challenge, right, no matter how many times the defense keeps going back and back and back to david pecker, trying to show this wasn't about the campaign, which is what you did, this is standard operating procedure, they said that over and
former "national enquirer" ceo david pecker. the defense spent hours trying to trip him up, catch him in contradictions, even introducing several instances where they say pecker's recollection of key events had changed over time. but the prosecution got the last word before lunch, getting pecker to admit that karen mcdougal's story would have been "national enquirer" gold, and his decision not to run it was purely to help donald trump. joining me now, nbc's vaughn hillyard...
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the prosecution will resume its redirect a former "national enquirer" publisher david pecker welcome to our two of america reports i am sandra smith in new york. >> john: i am don roberts in washington with court testimony resuming. the former president's legal team wrapped up with pecker earlier today he tried to poke holes in the testimony by pointing out some contradictions and inconsistencies. we have heard from trump once today before the court began, listen to this. >> we are doing very well in this ring to trial and everybody knows it. i think yesterday went very well. in the courthouse, it should be over. the case is over. you heard what was said, the case should be over. but you will have to make that determination and i think this judge will never allow the case to be held in. >> sandra: reaction to that in a moment. they will be here all our to help digest the news coming in from the courthouse. our own lower income will be joining us. that is just moments away. >> john: nate foy outside the supreme court would we expect when they get underway in a few minutes? >> john, th
the prosecution will resume its redirect a former "national enquirer" publisher david pecker welcome to our two of america reports i am sandra smith in new york. >> john: i am don roberts in washington with court testimony resuming. the former president's legal team wrapped up with pecker earlier today he tried to poke holes in the testimony by pointing out some contradictions and inconsistencies. we have heard from trump once today before the court began, listen to this....
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again, the focus that david pecker is here to tell the story that, number one, they used david pecker and the "national enquirer" to influence the 2016 election and that, number two, that they sought after these negative stories alleging extramarital affairs with donald trump in order to keep them from the american public before november of 2016, chris. >> okay. paul, trump's defense drilled in again today into the words standard in questioning pecker, they drew that running negative stories like one on trump's opponents was standard because it was good for business, but in redirect, steinglass also now honed in on that term. he asked is it standard to be negotiating with a presidential candidate's fixer on an agreement and is a $1 million liquidated damages clause on a $30,000 source agreement standard operating procedure. who's being more effective on the use of the word standard and why does it matter so much? >> so i think they were both making decent points. this trial is about trump's motive in arranging this hush money payment, hush money payments aren't illegal unless you're d
again, the focus that david pecker is here to tell the story that, number one, they used david pecker and the "national enquirer" to influence the 2016 election and that, number two, that they sought after these negative stories alleging extramarital affairs with donald trump in order to keep them from the american public before november of 2016, chris. >> okay. paul, trump's defense drilled in again today into the words standard in questioning pecker, they drew that running...