at home. dana? >> dana: okay. first off a specialout shout to a good friend of the family. it is mindy bartel. she is from colorado. she has accomplished a lot in her life. this is a pretty big deal there is a goal of climbing the mantua inclimb. it's about a mile up. just on the eastern slope of the rocky mountains. she was able to do the crime one hour friends from junior high. amazing. good job, mindy. on my podcast tonight matt whitlock. >> judge jeanine: harold? >> harold: first black graduate georgia tech 1965. that's him giving his granddaughter deanne that her diploma in engineering from georgia tech over the weekend. congratulations to that family and congratulations to him on all of his courage. did you go, girl. >> judge jeanine: i bet he was very proud. harold harold he was. >> judge jeanine: that's it for us tonight. have a great night, everybody. >> bret: thank you, judge. very much. i appreciate it. welcome to washington. i'm bret baier. ongoing anti-israel protest

force another prominent school to cancel its main graduation ceremony. we will take you there. house speaker mike johnson meets with the republican lawmakers seeking to kick him out of his job. we have the behind the scenes of that meeting and who will former president trump pick to be his running mate? a look at the contenders tonight. ♪ but, first, breaking tonight, israel has begun striking targets in the gaza strip city of rafah. israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu saying that a cease-fire proposal agreed to by hamas is far from his country's essential demands. however, israel will send negotiators to continue talks to try find a solution. but, in the meantime, they are not letting up. correspondent jeff paul is in tel aviv with the very latest tonight. good evening, jeff. >> jeff: yeah, good evening, bret. we are learning the israeli war cabinet has than newly decided to continue its operations in rafah saying that it wants to

keep pressure on hamas to eventually release all of the hostages but, at the same time, israel is also signaling that it will send a delegation of mediators to possibly figure out a new deal that is more acceptable to israel. now, shortly after those comments were made, the idf confirmed that it is carrying out targeted airstrikes on hamas terror targets in eastern rafah. that is where earlier today the israeli military started warning civilians to start evacuating. using fliers, phone calls, and even text messages. the idf urged roughly 100,000 palestinians to move to the humanitarian zone. the israeli military described it as a limited scope operation and not a large scale evacuation. here's how idf spokesperson daniel agarry described the current situation involving both possible hostage deal and their actions in rafah. >> we examine every answer and reply very seriously and find

every possibility regarding the negotiations for the return of the hostages to their homes as a central task as quickly as possible. and at the same time, we continue our operations in the gaza strip and we'll continue to do so. >> shortly after news broke of hamas agreeing to a deal, palestinians in gaza could be seen celebrating in the street, clearly happening about the development. the details of the deal that hamas has agreed to well those remain unclear; however, in israel, a much different scene unraveled there. thousands throughout the country including families of hostages started protesting, including right there in downtown tel aviv. they are outraged that there are 132 people who were kidnapped back on october 7th who are still missing. so they are pushing the israeli government to do whatever it takes to bring them home. >> expect for the government to take these to save all the remaining hostages who are still

alive. save lives. don't talk about fighting in gaza. >> meanwhile, hamas has released a statement saying any sort of military operation in rafah will not be a, quote, picnic. bret? >> bret: jeff paul live in tel aviv, jeff, thanks. let's get reaction to the cease-fire proposal, israel's response to the biden administration. jacqui joins us from the north lawn jacqui jacqui this morning president biden reiterated to prime minister netanyahu that the u.s. would not support a large scale operation in rafah that would endanger civilian lives. netanyahu continues to be pessimistic that continued talks would yield any results. when hamas announce grum had accepted a cease-fire proposal. both governments scrambled to unpack it. israel later announcing it was not acceptable up clear if the

cease-fire proposal hamas agreed to with on monday is what the u.s. and israel put on the tactical. >> we want to get the hostages out. get a cease-fire in place for six weeks. we want to increase humanitarian assistance. >> hamas made clear according to egyptian officials its demand to end the war with complete israeli withdraw for the return of release of all hostages after israel began targeted operations in wrath fall. the u.s. made clear it stands by the ally's clear goal despite oppose ago large scale operation that would endanger palestinian civilians is the israel still aligned with israel in its intention to eliminate the terrorist threat posed by hamas? >> of course be i have said many times here you are not going to eliminate ideology. do they have a right it and responsibility to eliminate the threat they suffered on october the 7th? absolutely of course they do. >> officials would not say whether the latest voluntarily by hamas may be part of a public pressure campaign make israel look like the aggressor and get

israel to back off support for its ally. >> president, what was your mess to netanyahu. >> following reports the administration withheld an arm's shift to israel, congressional republicans their v. their view. >> sounds like info operation trying to win p.r. war because hamas knows it can't win a military war against israel. as long as joe biden the democratic party keeps putting pressure on israel it makes hamas that much less li likely o actually agree to release any of these hostages. >> jordan's king abdullah who met privately with president biden at the white house today released a statement saying an israeli attack on rafah would lead to a, quotes: new massacre other threatens to lead to a new massacre accurately. that's pretty notable caution, bret, coming from a very critical ally in that region. bret? >> bret: jacqui heinrich live on the north lawn, thanks. a 5:00 p.m. deadline come and gone set by anti-israel protesters at harvard for the administration there to begin negotiations.

demonstrators have not specified what will happen next. meanwhile in manhattan, protesters from columbia university and hunter college are leading what they call a citywide day of rage. correspondent molly line is on the harvard campus in cambridge, massachusetts right now with the latest. good evening, mollie. >> molly: good evening, bret. as some protests are growing and escalating the negotiation deadline set for harvard leaders by the demonstrators that have created an encampment right here on harvard campus that deadline has passed. officials from columbia announced today that the school's university wide commencement s ceremony has been canceled after weeks of protests. as harvard's interim president with commencement weeks away calls to an end for disruptive encampment and end to the iconic yard. threatening disciplinary consequences. allen says the encampment favors the voice of a few over the rights of many bright those who

per parm pate or perpetuate will be referred for involuntary leave from their schools. with finals underway some harvard students are fed up. >> it disruptive to people studying. they are anti-semitic on visceral level. they are calling for intifada. they're calling for the destruction of israel in no uncertain terms and quite frankly needs to go. [shouting] >> the protesters calling themselves harvard out of occupied palestine have not been clear about their next steps. [chant from the river to the sea >> nearby mit the i object substitute told students to leave encampment by 2:30 p.m. or face academic or full suspension. writing the threat of outside interference and potential violence is real. ucla more arrests today as students return to campus after last week's unrest law enforcement and tactical gear. u.k. san diego. and protesters remain in washington, d.c. mark meredith

reports. see the statue of george washington remains covered up. the university says enough is enough. they want these tents to come down. they think this has gone on for far too long and the university is now asking for d.c. police to step in. >> tents have come down at rutgers among several institutions that have cut deals with the protesters meeting some of their demands. bret? >> bret: molly line at harvard, mollie, thanks. >> when you're in the military, if you are in the army and in the infantry, what fight you don't want to fight is the city. they are going to be casualties. there is what is called collateral damage. it's a fact of city fighting. >> bret: there you have keith kellogg talking about the fighting inside rafah that we believe is going to start soon is israel continues to move forward even as those talks tals about cease-fire continue. let's bring fox news chief political analyst brit hume. your thoughts where we are between the u.s., israel, hamas.

>> well, bret, i think it's worth remembering that when hamas carried out those hideous atrocities on october 7th, a cease-fire was supposedly in effect. so, one can imagine that, to the israelis, any cease-fire that hamas has agreed to may not be worth much. but, israel, i think, is in a position where it must, at least, pretend go along with cease-fire talks because it's facing two not always compatible objectives. one is to defeat hamas militarily and eliminate the continuing threat of hamas' military wing, which is about all there is to hamas now, i think. and the other is to try to get the benefit of the israeli families worrying understandably, terribly about where the hostages are, which families -- which hostages may still be alive, if any at this point. we know very little about that. so, they have to at least be going through the motions of talking about any deal that

might involve return of the hostages. it is notable, of course, that what we know yet so far about the what hamas says it agreed to no mention so far as we know of the hostages. israel feels free, at this moment, at least, go forward with military operation which has been reported as well underway. in the teen mean time the biden administration is supporting israel's objective of ending the hamas threat at the same time that it is rhetorically admin issue inning israel not to finish the job. heaven know what is all that really means. but it is just one more headache for the israeli government to deal with. >> bret: yeah. the headlines are pretty different biden speaks with netanyahu. biden meets jordan's king abdullah amid no agreement over cease-fire proposal. cease-fire talks between israel and hamas, again, at an impasse. over hostages. here is john kirby on the issue of hostages.

>> it's not like we sit down pie in the sky and say hey today is a guy day. let's negotiate with tears. you got to negotiate with who you have to negotiate to get back their families. frankly if there is a better idea to get whose hostages home with their families we would love to hear them. >> bret: do you think it's possible to negotiate a cease-fire that holds with hamas that however israel gets to negotiating table here, that hamas is on the other side of the tactical can uphold what it agrees to? >> brit: well it, theoretically could. all the experience we have suggests that hamas is not to be trusted on any level at any time i think it's a terrible dilemma. if you are trying to get the hostages back. it's largely been militarily defeat feeted. tunnel network has been demolished and hamas is in a bad place. what it has gone for it is the

apparent possession of these hostages. and in the situation that israel face, they don't know how many hostages are left alive. they don't know where they are exactly. they suspect a lot of them are in rafah but they don't know. it's a terribly hard situation for israel to confront think back, bret, the biden administration has been discouraging the final piece of this military puzzle here for israel for some time it's even possible one can imagine that these campus protests would not have reached the critical mass they seemed to have reached if the fighting had been over and done with. there were going to be civilian casualties to be sure and perhaps some hostage casualties such as the realities of war. war as the saying goes is indeed hell. >> bret: brits as always thank you. >> brit: you bet. >> bret: russia plans to hold deals simulating the use of

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smith said agents ran out of classified cover sheets using handwritten cover sheets instead. the case is still on the calendar to begin may 20th, but the judge is expects any day to move it back we'll follow that. there has been a new development in the challenge to the speaker of the house. georgia congresswoman marjorie taylor greene who is leading a move to replace speaker mike johnson had a long meeting with him with him this afternoon. senior correspondent chad pergram has details on that tonight. >> bret, greene met with house speaker mike johnson for nearly two hours. she is threatening to oust johnson over how he has run the house. >> this is the second time since fall that the house has flirted with trying to remove a speaker. >> we just had a very long discussion with speaker johnson, we'll be meeting with him again tomorrow based on the discussion

we h i have been patient and diligently and steady and i have been focused on the facts and none of that has changed. >> a senior house g.o.p. leadership source tells fox they are trying to stave off greene's motion. johnson aims to work things out. >> how was your meeting with congresswoman greene? >> it was good. we had a productive conversation. we're talking about some ideas. i think we can get everybody on the same page, so i'm working on it. >> did you talk to president trump today at all? did he call into that meeting? >> i talked to him today but he did not call into the meeting. >> now, johnson told fox the maneuver to unseat him was, quote: not good for the country. the conference, or the cause. johnson was not even sure that greene would pull the trigger today. >> are you expecting ms. greene to go well? what else could be said to her at this stage? >> i'm not going to comment on it. >> are you expecting a vote here about your speakership later today? >> i don't know. i just have to do my job every

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the strength of the republican party. >> i talk to president trump a lot. we are very close. i have never spoken to him about being haven't. >> the amount of talent that we have the in republican party is extraordinary. >> rubio could face a constitutional problem. electors may not vote for both president and vice president from their own state. risking florida's 30 electoral votes as to whether he would move. >> leaving me aside for moment, i think before anyone decides to move from their state you better make sure you move to a state there is not some d.a. makes a career going after plucks. >> nome shot. >> joe biden's dog has attacked 24 secret service people. how many people is enough people to be attacked and dangerously hurt before you make a decision on a dog? >> nome also claims to have met north korean dictator kim jong un which is unlikely. her publisher says they are removing that passage. trump has said he thinks he will announce his v.p. choice closer to the republican convention in mid july. the republican strategist with

ties to trump says the retreat was more about raising money than v.p. y auditions. the trump campaign and rnc says they raised $76 million in april. bret? >> bret: rich, thank you. optimism about a possible cut in the federal reserve key interest rate fueled wall street. the dow gained 177. the s&p 500 finished ahead 53. the nasdaq jumped 193. tonight we take a look at a new report on social security and medicare. joining us in s. miami guinness president of the committee for a responsible federal budget. this is the trustee's report on social security and medicare. what's the bottom line of this report. >> the bottom line, unfortunately, is the same bottom line they have every year which is that our two biggest government programs social security and medicare, the thing that seniors that matters to seniors the most are both headed towards insolvency. >> bret: a.p. led with they added a year to social security

in two years to medicare. that was the lead. >> yeah. if you really scratch below the surface and look hard, can you find some good news which is the economy is doing a little bit better. disability takeup is a little bit lower. there is a big picture here that has been here not for years but for decades. we know the trust funds don't have enough money to pay the benefits that have been promised. and that means when they run out, in less than a decade for social security, if you are newly retired in social security, i'm talking about when you are 71 years old, they there are going to be across the board benefit cuts of above 20%. that's terrible. i mean, it's really unimaginable that nobody is doing anything to fix these programs. >> bret: yeah. we have talked about this for years. and, at some pint we as a country have to turn the aircraft carrier of state a little bit to deal with entitlement programs. both parties have. this is the president and former president recently about this issue. >> many of my friends on the

other side of the i'll want to put social security on the chopping block. if anyone here tries to cut social security or medicare or reraise the retirement age i will stop. >> you first of all, there is a lot you can do in terms of entitlements, in terms of cutting and in terms of also the theft and the bad management of entitlements, tremendous bad management of entitlements, tremendous amounts of things, numbers of things you can do. >> bret: when it comes to politics, there is a lot of demagoguing to both parties hitting each other to the point where they don't even talk about it that much anymore. >> it's getting worse and worse. this is both parties trying to outdoing doo each other with promise what is they will not do to fix the system. that's the opposite of what they should be saying. first it's dishonest to voters and particularly to seniors secondly government no longer functioning. instead of saying we have a program that has overpromised because we are living longer. there is nothing that is bad about this situation. it reflects that we are living longer. but that means you have to make

changes to the program. politicians aren't willing to talk about anything hard because it's always a death match between the two parties. we need to be honest with people because the longer we wait, the more difficult those changes will be, particularly because nobody is going to touch benefits for exexisting seniors. they will be protected. much of this is going to fall on younger workers. >> bret: they will be protected is the key part. you can change other things. the president put out a statement saying he would deal with solve ventr solve is i. without cutting benefits and privatizing social security. heard that system for how many years? that can be part of the solution. ask the richest measures to pay their fair share fix social security and medicare and pay for all the new programs whether it's day care or pre-k to reduce the national debt, there is only so much can you do there again, there is all these fiscal miffs i promise nod to do anything to

fix social security or medicare. promise not to raise taxes only on rich people. promise not to. our debt is knee record levels, our major trust funds are headed towards insolvency. if our political leaders don't do anything about it it's going to weaken our economy and our national security. >> bret: we had candidates campaigning in front of a debt clock. >> talking about what they would do to fix it. you don't hear that anymore. >> bret: mya, we appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> bret: panel on the hamas acceptance of a cease-fire deal and what that means what israel is saying about it. first, what some of our fox affiliates arranged the country are covering tonight. fox 29 in philadelphia where a man who tried to shoot a pastor during a church service sunday said he did it because god told him to. bernard plight polite attacked germany during the sermon. the gun did not fire. he was tackled by the conscious. later police found the body of a man who was shot in polite's

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for him. >> bret: well, hamas apparently agreeing to a cease-fire, israel saying it's not really a deal. but sending negotiators, reuters writes it this way no cease-fire had been agreed to in gaza after hamas said it had accepted a proposal from egyptian and qatar mediators over the israeli-gaza conflict. this would appear to be a ruse intended to make side refusing a deal said the israeli official who spoke on the condition of anonymity, axios had a story about ammunition being held back by u.s., not confirming that, you heard from the white house, but here what happens one senator said about the possibility. >> these reports are true about joe biden withholding ammunition from israel, it may be the worst blunder yet of his administration around the world. maybe worse than the withdrawal from afghanistan because it does exactly send that signal to hamas but they do not need to surrender, they're do not need

to release the hostages. they can count on joe biden to force israel to capitulate as opposed to backing israel to the hilt. >> so with that let's bring in our panel fox news senior analyst juan williams, former republican national committee communications director douglas heye and katie pavlich news editor at down hall.com. okay, katy, thoughts on where we are and what this means big picture? >> well, the first thing is that there would not be an invasion into rafah in hamas were unconditionally surrender and return all the hostages that they have been holding there has been a lot of hand wringing over the past couple months whether they should go in. the administration urging full support of israel and pulling back. a report of them taking back this ammunition shipping, which the former u.s. ambassador to israel david freidman says a mistake given the ammunition they were sending was actually very precise and would help them rid rafah of hamas, which 8,000 fighters still there. holding the hostages while also

trying to preserve civilian life. the administration has changed their tune over the past couple of months because joe biden is trying to preserve his political future while prime minister benjamin netanyahu backed up unanimously by his war cabinet today is trying to preserve their country. they can either deal with this problem now in rafah or let hamas stay and have another war in a year, two years are five years and also egypt here has a lot to answer for, considering they have not opened their border. they share a border with israel and with gaza. and they haven't opened their borders, they haven't humanitarian aid and of course complicated over the weekend by that strike on the new humanitarian crossing that killed four idf soldiers. >> bret: senator bernie sanders, doug, tweets out today on rafah an israeli aid, 1 million people have fled to rafah. for months the u.s. has warned against an attack. netanyahu ignored the warnings now on assault is imminent. it will kill countless civilians, president biden must back his words with action and

all military offensive aid to israel. that's the push and pull here. >> absolutely. so much of what we see on this comes down to essentially partisan politics whether or not they support israel in this is dependent on whether or not they liked netanyahu from the get-go. and i think we still have more questions than answers here. what is and sort of what senator sanders is referring. to say what is the biden policy on any given day. it seems to shift because the politics for him are very difficult for him both here and certainly abroad. the other questions we have when you talk about the hostages how many of them are alive. how many of them are well? we still don't have firm answers on that. part of the reason why hamas doesn't genuinely want to come to the table. >> bret: here is prime minister netanyahu this weekend. >> 80 years ago, in the holocaust, the jewish people were totally defenseless against those who sought our destruction; no nation came to our aid, today, we again

confront enemies bent on our destruction. it israel is forced to stand alone, israel will stand alone. >> bret: juan? >> it clearly israel is not standing alone. i mean, you know, the united states congress the biden administration just sent $17 billion in addition to military supplies to israel. now they have delayed and i want to emphasize that word delayed. not stopped. not that they are not sending, they delayed. why did they delay? it was part of an effort to get israel to go along with the negotiations. who we have seen so far is that in essence the biden administration wants to pick up on the abraham accords that were started by the trump administration. what does that mean? it means bringing in the saudis, the jordanians, qataris, egypt into better relationship with israel. why? to separate and sort of segregate out iran to put iran in a corner.

that's the goal here. and i think, you know, one of the things that gets lost is that that is really what israel would want, that's the greatest benefit to israel is they would have security in their country. that's what the phone call was about today. biden saying to netanyahu, look, global public opinion is not on your side right now. why don't we go for a deal that would essentially isolate the iranians? >> bret: yeah. the question is, you know, the hostages have been out of the talking points. you know, it hasn't -- we don't know exactly what's in this deal that hamas apparently agreed to. but we are hearing that it's not hostage related. >> katie: you had john kirby saying there had been impasse over the hostages. hamas said we can't come up with 40 hostages alive to even negotiate in this situation. again, if they would just turn them over, this would all be over. and this is something that the biden administration should be pounding every single day to get them home. they have tried. but, on the issue of the two

state solution that continues to be pushed in the normalizing between saudi arabia and israel, people in israel, especially the young people under 30 do not want a two state solution after october 7th. they certainly don't want one if hamas is going to be active in the gaza strip. >> juan: but the united states, that's our policy, that's who we are. and i mean got to have some idea of what we have after the fighting stops, don't we? >> katie: failed for 30 years this and they need something new and clearly moving forward there will be different conversation what is is that is going to look like. >> bret: all right, we will follow it all. check in on the trump trial. the legend more than 100 years ago today started. ahhh! with flonase, allergies don't have to be scary. spray flonase sensimist daily for non-drowsy long lasting relief in a scent free, gentle mist. flonase all good. also, try our allergy headache and nighttime pills. here's to getting better with age.

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well. there are many reasons why incarceration is truly a last resort for me to take that step would be disruptive to these proceedings but essentially judge merchan said i will; we're back with the panel. doug, what about this, the state of this case? we're eventually going to hear from michael cohen in this case and his, you know, obviously comes under a lot of scrutiny as a witness. the former president said there's no case here. others say there is. >> look, clearly the judge is saying don't make me do this thing that i don't want to do. but the reality is that threat is still there. and as long as trump is out there saying not that the trial is a sham or larger things like that but starting specific staff members at the court it's a very real possibility that could happen. how this re-sets things for the campaign or does it? i don't think anybody is really smart enough to tell you except they will tell you it's great for their side which means you

can immediately discount it. this is going to go on for several more weeks. it's not beneficial for trump unless there game is changing in this or an exoneration and that's what we still have to wait to see. >> bret: katy? >> katie: he has a right to a speedy trial when he says the government wants two or three more weeks and takes him off the campaign trail. he has a point. when you have reporting from the "new york times" saying that the crime under scrutiny here is falsifying business records and, yet that, is not what we have heard a single thing about. we have heard a lot of salacious material. we have heard a lot of trying to imply that they there are crimes that have been committed that aren't actually the things he has been charged with. he is very frustrated. is he also essentially goading the judge into potentially putting him in jail, which is a legal strategy to try to get this case kicked up to the federal level which would then delay this even further. but he would be able to get out of the courtroom. we will see where it goes tomorrow. unprecedented times. >> bret: day 13. juan? how do you think it plays politically? >> politically, look, if he gets acquitted well then that plays good for him.

but if he is, in fact, convicted, that's not good. i think that's the one not good thing. and i think if he has to testify and what we have seen the last few days hope hix, and the accountants who appeared today is they are trying to tie the former president directly to these documents, to the falsification of these records. and, you know, if he has to testify and it puts him in the position where he has to say oh, i didn't have sex with these women or i didn't sign these checks. that's perjury. that, again, raises the stakes. that's a different issue, i think, even for trump supporters. >> bret: i want to turn back to the campus chaos which has continued, doug, and we see these protests continuing. now we see more graduation ceremonies being canceled. and even "saturday night live" mentioning that in their opening monologue. what about it? >> not everywhere is a disaster. last thursday i was on my alma mater's campus the university of north carolina where we saw some of these protests. and what we saw is the interim

chancellor lee roberts came in and said here is very specifically what the parameters are what is permissible and what's not. and he fixed that situation. which also tells us there are a lot of weak willed chancellors of presidents of the universities unwilling to do anything or local politicians in the case of mayor bowser in washington, d.c. where the president of george washington saying we need your police. we need your help and they are not getting it. this threatens current activities, dallasst classes and exams and obviously graduations. >> bret: the question is whether it's going to continue and for how long. each school is handling differently. panel, as always. thank you. ♪ all right, finally tonight, today's throwback. >> going, going, it's gone. the greatest home run hitter of all time, babe ruth made this home run trot around the bases 714 times. >> bret: 109 years ago today babe ruth hit the first of those

117 home runs. new york yankees hosting red sox at polo grounds in manhattan. ruth stepped up to the plate and smaxd the ball into the right field stands that record of 714 home runs would stand until 1974 when hank arron hit number 715. aaron's record of 755 was broken by barry bonds in 2007. there you go. tomorrow on "special report," we'll have an exclusive interview with pennsylvania democratic senator john fetterman about the college protests, some other big issues where he has bucked his party. he will be here on set live. remember, if you can't catch us live, set your dvr, 6:00 p.m. in the east and 3 p.m. on the west coast. that's it for this "special report" fair balanced and still unafraid. "the ingraham angle" is now. ♪ >> good evening. i'm laura ingraham. this is the ingraham angle. thanks as always for joining us. israel has