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>> kayleigh: former president donald trump is back in court today, where a judge has held him in contempt for a tenth time. that's for violating a gag order. and now the judge is threatening trump with possible jail time, if he fails to comply going forward. we will review the breaking details in just a moment. but first, we are monitoring the developing situation in rafah and the gaza strip. president biden and benjamin netanyahu spoke on the phone a short time ago as the israeli army orders some 100,000 palestinians to begin evacuating the city, signaling that a long-promised ground invasion into the hamas stronghold could be imminent. hello, everyone. this is "outnumbered." i'm kayleigh mcenany here with my cohosts, emily compagno and harris faulkner. also joining us, hudson institute senior fellow, rebeccah heinrichs, and fox news contributor and host of "the

david webb show" on sirius xm patriot, that's david webb. we begin in tel aviv where jeff paul is standing by with the latest on israel's expected ground operation into rafah. jeff? >> kayleigh, the idf has been dropping these fliers in eastern rafah urging civilians they are to evacuate. the israeli military so far describing this as a limited scope operation, saying it is temporary and not a large-scale evacuation. however, this is affecting roughly 100,000 palestinians who lives in eastern rafah. the israeli military has been urging them through not only phone calls but text messages, and those flyers, to move to the muwasi humanitarian zone on the coast north of rafah. as ongoing negotiations between both hamas and israel cleared to be collapsing. ending the latest round of negotiations, there are some reports they could be heading back tomorrow to continue those

talks. on that same day, yesterday, there was also a deadly mortar attack on the crossing that the idf says was fired from an area near the humanitarian zone in rafah. hamas claimed responsibility and, during a call with you and defense secretary lloyd austin, israel's defense minister said there is no choice left but to eventually conduct some sort of operation. he said it appears hamas is not serious about coming up with a new cease-fire deal. >> interpreter: we are recognizing worrying signals that hamas is not planning to accept any dealer agreement with us. the meaning of this operation in rafah and the entire gaza strip in the very near future. >> hamas released a statement a little earlier today saying any sort of ground operation into rafah would not be a "picnic," but we should mention the idf has not signaled this is the start of any sort of major ground operation there on the

ground in rafah. we'll have to see is to keep our eyes peeled on the latest developments. back to you, kayleigh. >> kayleigh: keep us updated. jeff paul, thank you. i have here the president's white house readout of his conversation with netanyahu. they talk about holocaust or hundreds day, they talk about the importance of humanitarian assistance getting to the palestinian people. but there is this line at the end, rebeccah, and it's pretty pointed. it says the president reiterated his clear position on rafah. so what is the president's position on rafah? lets pull up axios'. last wednesday, u.s. secretary of state antony blinken visited israel and had a tough conversation with netanyahu regarding a possible israeli operation in rafah. two sources briefed on the meeting said blinken told netanyahu during the meeting that a major military operation in rafah would lead to the u.s. publicly opposing it, and would negatively impact u.s.-israel

relations. just so our viewers understand, hamas leaders, we believe, are underneath rafah and those tunnels. so essentially the u.s. government says, sit back, netanyahu. wait for the next october 7th. don't get rid of hamas. that's a translation. >> rebeccah: wright, israel has no choice but to go into rafah and eliminate hamas. this is the last major stronghold where hamas is located. if israel carries out its campaign, its military campaign against hamas in rafah, though it has been conducting its military campaign, it will be very careful about noncombatants, that is, civilians. if you look at the way israel has conducted this war, it's had incredible vilification from the international community, and even now implied from the u.s. government itself. but if you look at what it's actually done, it is really holding up the gold standard for a grand campaign. it's evacuated city's 70-90% of civilians out of the area before notorious roof knocking, where it drops the munitions to warn civilians to get out of there,

it has even passed out maps to civilians about where the idf is going to be operating, which really even gives a disadvantage, because hamas could then know where they're going to operate. lastly, it has also created these humanitarian corridors where the idf is facilitating civilians to leave the area and protect them from hamas, because hamas wants to kill the civilians and then blame the idf to continue to vilification. so israel has really set the gold standard for what it's doing, to go after hamas, protect civilians, and the united states government should be giving israel everything it needs to be able to do that, including the weapons congress just appropriated for israel. >> kayleigh: to that end, harris, i think that's an important point. congress gives $26 billion for israel, this was allocated by our legislature, and then come over the weekend, we get this headline, u.s. put a hold on and munitions shipment israel. now, maybe there was some sort of complication. we don't have all the details. but a more sinister

interpretation could be this is a signal to israel that our support is not unequivocal. >> harris: i don't think it is sinister. i think it is logical. i mean, they couldn't get an outright bill through, in and out of the house and the senate and to the president's desk for aid, for singularly israel. so i think it is logical to think at this point, if they are now at the behest of people like nancy pelosi, former speaker of the house, so on and so forth, at the behest of some democrats, many of them very powerful, they didn't want to give any more aid to israel for ammunitions. so if they are holding it back, it is not sinister. i mean, it is, they are our number one ally in that region, but it's also just logical on the part of, how much can you flex for the democratic party? that's definitely in the playbook. my question is, what about all these other countries you just signed that aid bill for? for ukraine? if you are sitting in ukraine and you know that russia moved in before the aid and the weapons showed up, blah, blah, blah, what if it looks like you

are not winning? could we do that to that friend and ally as well? they are not a member of nato, that we have clearly shown we care about them. how far will biden flex? i want to get this in. the phone call that wrapped up about 30 minutes they were on the phone, benjamin netanyahu and the president, first they talked about holocaust remembrance day. this was about an hour and half ago. they spent 30 minutes on the phone. the two leaders talk about one of the darkest chapters, the holocaust, in human history. then biden updated the prime minister on efforts to secure a hostage deal. we don't often hear biden talk about the hostages, that he did from netanyahu, apparently. this is from the white house. including ongoing talks with doha, qatar. they want to ensure the crossing is open for humanitarian assistance for those in need. the president of the united states reiterated his clear position on rafah. they want to get hamas, and the president doesn't want them to do that. they can do what they want, they

are a sovereign nation. >> they are a sovereign nation. i think what rebecca said was really important. the great pains israel goes through to make sure that they don't hit civilians. the single best description i have heard of israel, put into just the scheme of world history, what they are doing versus let's say what we have done as a country, let's watch. this is professor scott galloway. listen very closely to these numbers. >> 2200 american servicemen killed at pearl harbor. we go on to kill japanese, we go on to kill 400,000 people in afghanistan and iraq. we were at accused of genocide, but jews and israel are not allowed to prosecute a war, and they have done it more humanly than we have done. the ratio of combatants to civilians, civilian death to combatant mortality, is lower than it was in mozilla, japan, germany

so there's a different standard for jews and israel. >> kayleigh: those are facts. why is there a different standard for jews in israel? >> emily: he's absolutely right. i have to point out, we are not here to discuss the morality of those heavy-handed responses. instead, the reality right now, that our president has prevented israel from ending things. there is no better recipe for a continued abscess, for a continued fomenting, then to let the enemy and our fizzle allies. they are placing so much handcuffs on these allies, placing so many demands on the aide that we give. the exception is, with ukraine, he is publicly and credibly supportive. we don't have that for israel. there is no way for these countries to adequately defend themselves and end it right now. the ukraine situation has been dragging on for well over a year. if we had just given them what

they asked for right away, they could have ended it. for israel, we are now ignoring our own history, our own precedent, to say exercise restraint, and now israel is fomenting -- being subject to a fomented situation because hamas is essentially being given whatever they want, because our allies have been given what they want. speech to >> kayleigh: as we think about holocaust member and, 19 to said it best. if we do not defend ourselves, nobody will defend ourselves. if we need to stand alone we will stand alone. >> david: my friend died last tuesday. i was at his funeral on friday. we sat shiva and they are still sitting shiva today. he survived auschwitz, and a second camp. his mother, they never saw her again after auschwitz and his father moved to a different camp. what he lived to see today, i

can't even imagine what that means. this is someone who went on -- he was 97 years old -- to teach others the lessons of this. the equivocation, or the false equivocation by the biden administration, is a lie. rebeccah pointed out what israel does. there are so many steps before a strike. i've been there, seen this played out. this is something they do to preserve life because of their belief in life. if they are not, they will not strike. it is not simple at times. and they are faced with people who will strike at them, strike at aid workers. they hit ambulances earlier today, and so much more. >> kayleigh: keep in mind, there are five american hostages. and they are babies. let's keep our focus on them. the judge in president trump's

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>> emily: happening now in the historic criminal trial of former president trump, the trump organization's one-time controller, jeff and connie, is on the witness stand. earlier, the judge threatened to throw trump in jail over his gag orders. he claims that the $1,000 fines are not working. let's go live to eric shawn outside the new york state supreme court. >> that's right. from the oval office to a jail cell. could that be former president trump's fate if he continues to violate judge

merchan's gag orders? >> the judge is totally conflicted. you want to take a look at it. i'm not supposed to be talking about it. but i am allowed to say that the judge has a conflict. you ought to take a look at it. he's taking away my constitutional right to speak. >> the defendant continues to rail against these proceedings and the gag order, even though the former president that he could potentially cost him his freedom. judge juan merchan warned that the vitriol in dangerous rhetoric has to stop, telling him directly, "the last thing i want to consider is jail. you're the former president and possibly the next president. the magnitude of that decision is not lost on me. your continued willful violation of the court's order constitutes a direct attack on the rule of law and will not be allowed to continue." in court, former trump organization controller jeff mcconney testified how the company reimbursed michael cohen

for the money he laid out to pay off stormy daniels, but was unaware about any type of deal. even though an email approved the payment, he said he was told it was for legal services and he was not aware that any of cohen's payments were either doubled to pay for taxes, as prosecutors claim, or what the purpose of that money actually was since he was told it was to cover legal services. he did not know anything about every type of dealer agreement with stormy daniels. he also said some of those checks were drawn from the former president's personal checking account, but it is important to note that so far he has not tied in the president at all in any way directly with knowing these payments were part of the deal to cover stormy daniels pages that they were marked, as the defense says, as legal expenses. >> emily: eric shawn live outside the courthouse, thank you. david led, what is your take? >> david: no matter how far they go with the public

arguments were narratives over the president, the beaks challenge is, in that room, is there one juror who is going to listen to the facts of what new york law is, and its limitations, and the inability to bring that up to a federal l? i know that the gag orders and all of that is on the table, but it takes one juror, one person to say you cannot charge up. they tried to extend the statute of limitations. i know you are the better attorney than i am. i play one on radio, maybe. but the facts are there. new york law does not meet federal law. also, what is the second crime? the second crime has never been stated by the prosecution, to the best of my knowledge. what is the second crime that he was committing these acts in order to create? >> emily: harris, what do you make of the bubbling up of the gag orders and now this threat of incarceration? to david's point, politics is one juror, but also a lot of

americans watching their former president be seemingly persecuted for nothing and then thrown in jail for nothing. >> harris: if democrats are playing a political game, at this point they are not winning. because they have made a martyr out of the former president that they had hoped to beat. it's hard to beat someone when you make that much bigger. when you make the job much harder. and you are not doing your job to the point where the american people are telling you in the polls what they think, about how they are really feeling and what they think of you as a candidate and a current president. it's not helping them. any delay in this process, i've said before, is a defeat for democrats. they want this to be adjudicated and painful installations as possible for the man on trial, because that helps their candidate for president. i want to say this about what david said, what is the second crime? what is the first crime? what is it they are showing us? without that, how can you get a fair trial if he doesn't really know what the crime is against him? i don't know how you defend that. >> emily: right. likely going to be a question before appeal if it gets that far.

hopefully it doesn't. >> kayleigh: they don't care if they are appealed. i don't think the prosecutor's care. they want to conviction before election day. but this entire trial should be an in-kind contribution to the republican party. it is such a farce. we've already been h through how it's unprecedented. "the new york times" has admitted that much. we going to threaten with jail time? with the american people see is michael cohen out on tiktok making money, according to trump's attorney, shopping a tv show, and trump is being screamed at by reporters, asked about every detail of the case, and he can't answer the questions? and if he does answer the questions, the judge threatens to throw him in jail? this is ridiculous. it defies common sense, which is why the whole trial is an in-kind contribution to the republican party. so well done. it's backfiring. >> emily: and well said. onto this topic, former fulton county trump prosecutor nathan wade is now speaking out about his affair with the georgia district attorney fani

willis. wade resigned from trump's election's election interference case last month, but is now defending his workplace romance with willis. watch. >> workplace romances are as american as apple pie. it happens to everyone. but it happened to the two of us. >> do you regret it? >> i regret that that private matter became the focal point of this very important prosecution. >> emily: i'm sorry -- as american as apple pie? i don't consider it as american as apple pie. rotten apple pie. >> kayleigh: there's an image in my head as apple pie and having to think about nathan wade and fani willis. you're trying to put your workplace romance -- i thought this was an affair, first of all. i thought he was married. maybe i'm wrong. please correct me if i am. he said his marriage technically ended but they had gotten a

divorce. whatever his acclamation, and affair should not be classified as a great american tradition like apple pie, the fourth of july, or the american flag, or major league baseball. leave it to nathan wade. good luck with that one, my friend. >> emily: he said he only regrets that the personal obfuscated the public life and what they were trying to do, whatever, regarding the mess it created. no regret for the actual illicit affair. >> rebeccah: i couldn't get over the fact that the interviewer was asking him -- democracy was on the line, so couldn't you just not do this because democracy is on the line? a free and open society, democratic rule, western civilization and the balance? and you have stopped for that? and he basically said he didn't have the self-control. yes, he would do all of this for democracy, but he wouldn't do that. >> david: i don't have self-control when it comes to apple pie but i do when it comes to cheating on my wife. i never do it. >> emily: [boos] this next, bashing the handling

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>> harris: into israel and jewish hate anarchy are taking over college campuses in the united states. you know this. it's everywhere. take a look at what right now is happening at george washington university. people are rallying together and raising something other than the american flag. they are raising the palestinian flag proudly on their campus. what happened to the american flag? today take take it down? what are the campus policies? i have some any questions. look what they did to george washington's head. they decorated him, they say. [sigh] the anti-israel protesters are also attacking president biden, predicting image of him over an american flag with the nickname "genocide joe."

despite these displays, president biden has yet to take a strong stance against the campus chaos. perhaps this is the reason why. politico is reporting those pro-palestinian protesters, as they are called, are backed by surprising sources: biden's biggest donors. emily, i'm talking the rockefellers, the rockefellers brothers group, and george soros, groups that they back. i mean, this is serious stuff. the pritzker family. the governor of illinois, his cousin, nick, and his wife, susan. >> emily: tremendous amounts. i think what this illustrates to us is, first of all, for a group constantly crying to divest from israel and to know where your money is, sobbing about where your 401(k) is invested, and the like, there's a pretty big standard of not only hypocrisy but also contributing money toward insidious things. we know that we have a vice president who called her contribution to the fund for

those who engage in violent crimes during the protest of the summer of love to get o out of bail. at the end of the day, you have to know where your money's going to. under this administration it seems patently obvious to me that someone who says, i donated to this cause, this group, you should know exactly what that means. what d.a. are you contributing to that will then subsequently lead to a violent felon is laid out on the streets? et cetera. the list goes on, but right now i personally wouldn't be able to sleep at night if my money had gone toward this anti-semitic, anti-jewish demonstration hatred movement. >> harris: what you are looking at happened about 45 minutes ago when we were on "focus," and those demonstrators, rioters -- i don't even know what to call these people anymore. they are certainly pushing their way toward the riot gear cop speaking to barricades. this is uc san diego, part of the university of california public school system.

this is more than just people -- emily is right, morally they should want to know where that money is going, but legally we've got to know, too. where all those extra irs agents taking a look at where this money is being funneled? and for some of these groups, there is no transparency. to give their money and it's hard to track. >> kayleigh: we need to get to the bottom of this. activist groups train students for months before campus protests. they go into the fact that black panthers, former black panthers, trained some of these folks. they go into the national students for justice in palestine who put this out as advice for these protesters. they said, if someone is arrested, don't linger too a long, or pigs -- to which they were referring, presumably, the police. they going to the fact that at columbia, they were trying to host on campus this resistance 101 class, and the organizers of this had celebrated october 7th. so columbia said, you can't host this on our campus, so they took it remote. you want to know what the kids

learned at this resistance 101 seminar? that there's nothing wrong with being a member of hamas, being a leader of hamas, being a fighter and hamas. these are the people that are on the front lines defending palestine. we need to get to the bottom of this. columbia now canceling their commencement. i want to give a shout out to my alma mater who just put out an unequivocal statement. harvard, they will be holding their commencement, they said the encampments must end now. it's good to see some of these institutions going in the right direction. >> harris: columbia is so far on this. they say they're going to give some sideline fest event to replace the commencement. if you have security for one, why can't you have it for the other? rebeccah, the jewish voice for peace, which especially describes itself as anti-zionist, is where a lot of money, hundreds of thousands of dollars, are coming from david rockefeller jr. who sits on the board of rockefeller brothers fund. in 2022, he gave hundreds of thousands to this foundation,

and it is tied in with jewish voice for peace. so the transparency is difficult because the money is being given one to another to another. >> rebeccah: there should not be anti-semitism on the left side with the right side of the political spectrum. but on the left, when you look at -- it might be a small number of people, but the money is coming from the most powerful people in this country. so it is systemic. these people are wealthy, influential, and as you said come some of these people are being trained from outside university. the g.w. campus president of the university said this isn't safe, these people are mass, we don't know who they are on the campus, they are not vetted. so these people could come from dangerous backgrounds and they don't even know if it's a security risk to the law-abiding people on the campus. >> harris: david, where do we see a situation where joe biden says, let me give this money back to these donors until they can tell me if there money is being funneled to terrorists? >> david: it history repeats,

never picked something is missing here, rico charges. while this foundation, the pritzkers, soros, the funding is fungible, if you go by the list of what we no, revolutionary communists of america, the party for socialism and liberation, all these other organizations out of new york, the palestine -- they are working with six other organizations. these are rico charges that can be brought against these groups, because they are the ones doing the training. they are building this out. >> harris: you mean like what they are trying to do with president trump, that they don't have the evidence to do it? that we can show evidence right here on this program? >> david: we have the evidence. >> harris: by the way, that "terrorist" word that i used, they are threatening to kill jews on campus. in some of these places we are seeing jewish students fear for their lives. we have interviewed some of them right here on this network. if i am joe biden, i would just give that money back from some of these people, these big

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>> harris: a former executive at the trump organization is on the witness stand right now in the trump's new york criminal trial. moment by moment now, that's who is there. he's being cross-examined by the former president's defense team. also, judge juan merchan is setting the president for a second time with jail time if he fails to stop violating his gag order. he says it's not working, that from the judge. here with me now, former white-collar criminal defense attorney law clerk for justice thomas and host of the ingraham angle, laura ingraham herself. it is so great to see you. >> great to be here. >> harris: and great to get your take on this. we are all perched to see what's going happen when the greatest liar on the planet, michael cohen, take the stand. until then, we have heard from

these people like the comptroller today. what is your take on how things are going today? >> laura: today is more on the paper trail. x was spent, and they make a point about what was in the note of the memo of the actual check, they made a big point today about whether the payments were approved by their legal department at the trump organization, and noting the, te prosecution did, that those payments were not approved, as mcconney had to say, and then they went directly to michael cohen. so while all of this is somewhat interesting, i guess, if you really like being in the weeds of this document trail, what none of it has done -- and even the folks at the other networks had to say reluctantly today as they were covering it, there is no connection back to trump. so they are going through this paper trail of payments and repayments to michael cohen from

the trump organization trust, but there is no connection to donald trump himself. and what they are doing in addition, which is interesting, andy mccarthy made very interesting point, that they are trying to say on the one hand that these payments are legal, that there's nothing wrong with these payments. people do this all the time. they don't want bad publicity and they paid to kill stories, big deal. on the other hand, they're also saying that michael cohen is not believable, and the president himself didn't have anything to do with this. they are a little bit in conflict, those two points, the member, the only have to pick off one juror. if one juror thinks michael cohen is a total scalawag, can't be believed, that's going to help trump. on the other hand, if they think it is legal anyway, there's no crime here in the first place. >> harris: yeah. >> laura: said there is a lot that is bizarre about this case, but the number one thing that

is bizarre is that they are arguing a point that they didn't charge him with, which is unconstitutional under the new york code. they are arguing that this was a conspiracy to violate a campaign finance law, using this business fraud statute. they didn't charge him with that. so they are really kind of throwing everything up against the wall, and i think it is not to the prosecution's benefit as to how they handled this case, and i think a lot of people whoo wished for a different outcome, namely a guilty verdict, our -- >> harris: so much details and information we need. i need you and two quick things, though. one, the judge in the end could make it fit. he did give instructions to that jury, i believe, from what i'm reading and from what other attorneys are telling me, that could make it easier for the prosecution to get a conviction. so talk to me about that. does that ever happen?

>> laura: well, given what this judge has already done -- and i'm not subject to a gag order, so i can say this. >> harris: speak! >> laura: given what he's already done, i don't put anything past him. but, again, one juror has to see that this whole process has been deeply unfair from the very beginning. could he do that? yes, he can. that'll be subject to bring up for the trump team on appeal, and trump has to have a good appellate lawyers for this, because there's a lot of appellate issues being logged right now as this trial goes on. but the judge could make it easier. the judge cannot implant a new charge in an indictment. he didn't write the indictment, the prosecutor did. but he can couch the jury's instructions to perhaps make it a little bit more amenable toward the prosecution. but there can't be a new crime in there. >> harris: right, and that's what i was alluding to. one would help the prosecution

to craft those instructions, but you can't change with the accusations -- >> laura: i know i'm taking up all your time, but another thing that was interesting today was in the gag order warning, finding former president trump guilty of a tenth gag order violation. well, merchan says, i realize i can basically be threatening jail time for a front runner and a future president. >> harris: yep, he said that. >> laura: when he said that, i thought, okay, that's interesting. >> harris: definitely. it always is with you. i will see you tonight from home. i'll be watching. >> laura: i'm watching you. great show, as always. >> harris: thank you, laura. let's get us in breaking news. we were waiting to make sure this was solid. now the associated press is reporting hamas has reportedly told qatar and egypt, the mediators of those countries, hamas will accept the cease-fire proposal with israel. this reportedly includes a

prisoner swap in addition to a stop in the fighting. the development comes as of course we were expecting the israeli ground operation into hamas' final stronghold in rafah. so, on the heels of israel invading where their last stronghold was, where surely there is some hamas leadership, they say, uh-oh, we'll go back to october 6th. that's what we are talking about. they had a cease-fire, and october 7th, hamas broke it and slaughtered and raped people in gaza. israelis. they crossed the line. they crossed the line for humanity and now they want to deal. more "outnumbered" in the moment. ♪ and doug. (bell ringing) limu, someone needs to customize and save hundreds on car insurance with liberty mutual. let's fly! (inaudible sounds) chief! doug. (inaudible sounds)

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>> harris: we have just gotten a statement, the wider media, from the hamas savages who perpetrated a massacre, as we know. not just a simple killing, a torturing, bringing babies and ovens, massacre on october 7th against the israelis. the breaking news now is that hamas has agreed to a cease-fire deal proposed by egypt and qatar, including the release of more hostages. not all the hostages, more hostages, as well as a stop in the fighting.

jeff paul is live in tel aviv. jeff, i got the statement. do you have the statement in front of you? >> yeah, i do. it is a bit religious, but in terms of what we are reading through it, you got the leader of hamas, who has been a critical part of these ongoing negotiations, basically saying that he had a call with the qataris as well as the egyptian saying they agreed to this framework that has been on the table of this potential cease-fire agreement. the real big question is, considering everything that's happened over the last 24 hours, will israel now agree to the framework that has been put on the table? a lot has changed over the last week. when we first started talking about this potential hostage agreement, including over the last 24 hours, you had this attack at the kerem shalom crossing, which was critical to bringing in humanitarian aid. four israeli soldiers died there. then you have that delegation

leaving egypt to head back to qatar, and today of course the huge development where these flyers and text messages and phone calls were being delivered to roughly 100,000 palestinians in eastern rafah that they needed to evacuate. it's a significant development that, given all of that, possibly all that pressure that maybe israel was putting on hamas, that they have now agreed to the framework of a potential cease-fire agreement. we will see next. >> harris: you talk about pressure. it is not fall there now and were about to move in. that's the ultimate pressure and they know israel means their word. i don't know what we are doing in the united states, but they mean there is. jeff paul, thank you. a hamas statement. in the name of allah, the most gracious, the head of the hamas movement --" they call themselves a movement. "had a call with the israeli

minister and inform them that hamas' movements approval of their proposal regarding the cease-fire agreement." they are not getting back on the hostages, though. >> kayleigh: no. i put myself in the mind of one of these hostages' families. i followed a few of them and i read the things they say every day. as i mentioned, kfir and ariel bibas, the sweet little redheaded boys, we have shown the pictures i don't know how many times. israel said there's hostages unaccounted for and about a quarter of them are dead. i hope that's not the case. i am just imagining being a family member of one of these hostages and praying and hoping that come in the coming days, my loved one comes home. i pray that those little boys come home and the five american hostages and the others. >> harris: i'm learning now that the state department cannot confirm this. give me the national security council, is also true? okay. so the national security counsel also cannot confirm this. they are about to go in and have a ground invasion. they want to go back to

october 6th when they already had a cease-fire. but we don't get all the hostages back? like, what kind of a deal is >> david: it's been reported that they are using hostages as shields below rafah, for example, hidden somewhere. they can't give that up. also, this sounds like a dodge. we don't know, confirmed or not confirmed, what's going on. we have seen this play before in prior conflict. we want to cease-fire. it is not agreed to. they want to delay. remember, they are playing an information war game. they want the world to think that we accepted the cease-fire, israel is evil for going into gaza. this -- be very careful with this one. don't trust. >> harris: i've got you. we are coming right back. bill, where's your mask? i really tried sleeping with it, everybody. but i'm done struggling. now i sleep with inspire. inspire? inspire is a sleep apnea treatment that works inside my body with just the click of this button. a button? no mask?

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that cease-fire deal brokered by qatar, brokered by egypt, hamas says they have accepted the cease-fire. we have yet to hear from israel. reach out to the white house, yet to hear from the white house, yet to hear from the state department although at that moment at that podium there will be a lot of questions. then we will take you to the white house press briefing that is with press secretary karine jean-pierre. national security communications john kirby. that begins at 2:15 p.m. eastern time and not only are there lingering questions about the hamas excepted cease-fire as we wait to hear from israel, there are questions about an ammunition delay that axios reported. why was ammunition delayed to israel? so far the reporting the white house has declined to comment. decline no longer. we will hear from the white house at 2:15 p.m. eastern time. thank you to ever appear and make sure to dvr the show. for now, "america reports." >> john: breaking in the past few minutes. some are