survey we've showed many times shows renters believe their ability to buy a home has a dropped to an all-time low. this goes back to 2015. so there are things that can be done to turn the all of this stuff around. you can fight back. you have got to make sacrifices, you can make your life better even when the odds are stacked against you or seem to be stacked against you. i'll be honest, they are stacked against you right now. the fact of the matter is the circumstances we're in with these ultra-high rates, with unlimited government spending means that the have notses really are in a tough pick, and to ask people to sacrifice may sound unfair or unreasonable are. but for me, it is really the only way you can survive this if you want to enhance your life. it's a tough period of time, but what? tough times make tough people, right, liz? liz: and this country -- charles: yes, absolutely. liz: -- allows us to squeeze the juice out of this lemon we call life the most, right in.

charles: absolutely are. absolutely. liz: this country, for better or for worse, and i say for better. charles, thank you very much. breaking news. folks, if there is a headline on this tuesday it's that the bulls are maybe losing a bit of their grip on the markets and are in scweap. ty of snapping multisession winning streaks -- jeopardy. if you look at this picture at the moment, looks okay, the dow is up 14, but it had been up 125. with we do have the nasdaq dipping into negative territory, down 18, the s&p clinging to a 4 of point gain. what is also interesting is that the dow still in the green considering a blue chip bomb that is proving to be a drag. that bomb? disney. shares are cratering 99.25% -- 9.25% right now. the stock not only dwelling at the low e depth of the dow 30, but it stands as the second worst performer on the s&p 500. disney shares bitten hard by the details that were within what looked like a pretty good quarterly earnings report which included a beat on earnings per share and the first ever

operating profit posted by a combined disney+ and hue i lieu streaming unit -- hulu streaming unit9. but its sales of $22 2.0 8 billion missed the $22.11 billion expected. due to a 23232% drop -- 222% drop in its -- 322% -- 22% drop in its tv business, that became a problem for investors. it did not help9 that the chief financial officer also said expect a slowdown in the next quarter with at the parks division which has been a sal wart. cfrs has chopped etc. rating from a buy to a hold -- its rating from a buy to a hold this afternoon. look at the broader market. the s&p 500ing well, it's still on track for its forty straight winning session -- fourth straight winning session. the nasdaq is in the red at the moment. over the past week, it has a gained about 2%. not bad for a market that has a

lately constantly been disappointed as it waits for interest rate cuts from the federal reserve that haven't come yet. and if you believe the latest fedhead this afternoon, do not hold your breath. minneapolis fed bank president neel kashkari speaking at the milken conference in california and said due to persistent inflation particularly in the housing sector, the central bank will probably keep interest rates where they are for an extended period of time. now, with earnings season nearly over, what does that mean? where should investors look for market direction? joining me now, seaport securities founder e ted weisberg and pin know slative capital management's head of investment strategy tim urban wits. let me start with you, tim, because you have specifically talked about the overall economy and that investors should not be leaning on this hope or investing around the hope of a rate cut. >> that's exactly right, liz. our call all year has been you're going to see the fed that

continues to hold rates steady at this level, and in the short term we expect you're going to continue to see volatility in interest rates as a investors continue to extrapolate as to what the next move is based on every little macroeconomic data point that comes out. and, liz, we did see some good news last week with a softening in the labor market, specifically with what we saw with wage growth, but we have to take a step back and remember this is just one print we need to see that trend continue. we think you're going to be in an environment where growth can remain firm as well as information. doesn't -- inflation. we think it's still time to put the butteddal -- pedal down, but we shouldn't jump to the conclusion that the fed's going to start cut canning rates. liz: 4.835 in the 2-year. it's interesting, the 2-year was down and now has moved to the upside. teddy weisberg, you've been somebody who said park it in short-term t-bills. at least at the moment if you're too nervous -- are you too

nervous? the markets continue to climb this wall of inflation if worry and? >> absolutely. but, yes -- well, first of all, i'm always nervous. [laughter] you know, the first thing you do when you walk into a movie neatt look -- liz: exit signs. my dad, oh, my god. [laughter] >> but the fact is there are so many unknowns, and we have talked -- and i agree with tim 100% on his interest rate scenario. i think the economy is doing just fine. we see that with corporate earnings. on balance they've been terrific again. at the end of the day, it is all about corporate earnings. so the market, yes, climbs this wall of worry. a lot of unknowns out there, but bad news is good news as far as the market's concerned from a, from an economic point of view. every time we get a little bad news like the print we had last week, the market rallies. but the reality is interest rates are probably going nowhere. and i don't necessarily think that's a bad thing. i've been doing this a long time. 5%, 4% interest rates on your

money if you're a saver, i think it's kind of normal. liz: well, buffett if just sold his apple stock or at least a bit of it, tim, so he could park some of that cash and make 5%, easy peasy, in treasuries. is it as easy as saying just look at good companies that are conducting business and creating new things? for example, today we've got apple up about a quarter of a percent. it unveiled a whole new suite of ipads. an 11-inch, then kind of a super-sized 13-inch. they put in the prices. they say it's a.i.-enabled. what do you make of something like that, or do you say let me go in for some of the mid cap or smaller cap names? >> listen, i think from an investment strategy standpoint, there's a couple of things that are critical. number one, we think it's important to continue to lean into this a.i. tech theme that that has been driving markets higher a really for the better part of this week is and specifically the next wave of growth we really see this in those a.i. infrastructure company. you look at various corporations

across the country, everybody is looming -- looking to implement these larger or a.i. models. that's something that is not going away regardless of a what happens in the economy, and this next wave of growth is going to come from those the infrastructure company. so think semiconductor stocks, data center reiths -- reits. so that is very important. we also think it's important going back to the interest rate discussion, you have to find ways to break the link between relying on interest rates and protection in your portfolio. liz: yes, yes. >> you have to rely on utilities, long duration -- liz: yeah. those traditional sort of save, safety plays of utilities because they yield a lot, teddy. tell me what you love right now, and would you pick up, say for example, a disney? which is about 10% cheaper today. >> well, we happen the like disney, so we're going to use this as an opportunity to add to the stock -- liz: can i just interrupt you? you know, today you had the

chief financial officer and bob iger talking about they expect a few little bumps here. and the parks division is getting affected by consumers who are inflation-weary. that doesn't concern you? >> well, first of all, i've never been to a disney if park, but i hear people talk about the expense of going to a disney park. they could just be price themselves, you know, out of the market a little bit, and they can fix thatting you know in that's fixable. they can just lower prices. yes, it concerns me, but that weakness might create opportunity, because i think longer term disney's a great franchise, and i think it's a stock worth owning. is it cheap at $106 versus it was trading below 90 a couple of months ago, i don't know if it's going back there. but i think this weakness if you want to own disney creates ab ap opportunity. you can pick and choose your entry leveling, but i like the stock -- liz: you're mean. you never took jason to disneyhand? >> i still hear about it --

disneyland. [laughter] liz: jim, save teddy. give me a bottom on, say, for amazon because the consumer is still holding up. >> yeah, everybody continues to think they're going to fade, and that just has not been the case. stocks like amazon are are important at this point -- are very important. you look at the e-commerce market, you're starting to see margin withs expand which i think is really encouraging, and on the other side you look at the cloud side of the business where margins are fat to begin with, this is a company that has e done a masterful job scaling on other aspects of their business. so we'd anticipate they'd roll that out on the cloud side. that, you put those two together, we think it's a very bullish case for the stock. and going back to this, we think it's really a mistake to be sitting on the sidelines in treasuries. our man a that is you need to have investors that are risk aware but not risk off as we continue to think stocks can do well in this environment. liz: amazon intraday hit an all-time high.

very nice move for amazon. so for all of you who -- i was just checking the annual low here for amazon, it was about $104. we're at $1888 right now. -- 188. you want to go for good companies. teddy, the mean grinch dad weisberg who never took his kid to disney world or disneyland. [laughter] to recap, disney losing ground after a sales miss due in part to weaker tv revenue in the quarter, they are legacy tv business. minneapolis bank fed president neel kashkari says the central bank will probably keep rates where they are or even, and this would be an outside chance, raise them to bring inflation down. and apple announcing new version ises of its ipad air and ipad pro tablets today. small businesses which make up the backbone of the u.s. economy now getting an edge on their competition with a new parter is, artificial

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isn't just for the big guys with deep company pockets anymore. according to a new survey just ea elited by godaddy's research arm venture forward, 50% of micro business owners are upping their game with generative a.i. tools. godaddy also finding that 44% of small business owners agree that a.i. will help them compete against larger enterprises and level the playing field which they've been waiting for for a long time. shares of the domain registration and web services company charging higher. this is an all-time high, folk, of $131.46. let's bring in the ceo, iowa man bhutanny, here in a fox business with exclusive. among the narratives for small businesses i guess in the recent past was that it was a pact of life that they would be stymied or crushed by the behemoths in their industry. what's the narrative now that they're using a.i.? >> they're so excited about a.i., liz. and really what's happening is that small business owners and

and micro business owners, they're super busy, right? they have so many things they have to take care of. but what a.i. can do and go j daddies' tools is generate the content. two out of four customers are telling us they're usinginging it to generate market contact and -- content and three out of four, creating content. they want product descriptions, images, and generative payment can do that really well. and it looks great, it looks professional, and that's how they can people. as you already said, 44% of them saying, yeah, this is going to help me compete. liz: could it be possible that with your tool or some of the other tools that are offered that are out there at the moment, but yours is called a-i-r-o, is it possible that a little guy could actually beat system of the bigger players in their area of business? >> absolutely. you know, the little guy has already a personalized relationship with their

customers, right? if customers go to the micro business because they get that great personal touch. let me just tell you what airo actually does. if you buy a domain if name, it creates a coming soon web site for you with, a full web site, you can say i want it more professional or more fun, and it'll regenerate all of them. it'll create a logo for our small business customer, generate an e-mail address, it'll literally actually create a -- for them where they can accept payments. what we're going for is that that business in a box with, starting out you're going or you've already startedded and you want to have all these capability, airo will create that professional marketing content for you. it'll even post to social media, it'll build a full 30-day calendar for you and post to social media for you, and that's what micro and small businesses need. big businesses have people that do that stuff for them, and micro business can now do it with a.i -- liz: this, to me, is absolutely fascinating. because it is a tool -- by the

way, you just started developing it a year ago. you launched only this past november. it feels like there is a lot of adoption. does it add the cost to the url or the domain name that people are buying? are there any bolt-on costs here? >> the airo relationship comes with every domain purchase that our customer have. you can literally do it right now, liz. you can go buy a domain if name and at the end of that is a continue button. you hit that, and you'll land in the airo experience. what we're going for here is we want our customers to discover the breadth of products that godaddy has, and we want them to engage with it. and, yeses, in time we will look to monetize it and, yes, at some point people end up paying through the e-mail address or web site, but really we want to show them what airo can do for them so more and more customers can just have a one-stop shop, use godaddy across these services and and have great looking content.

liz: i don't know why i might need go to a shopify anymore. are you developing what you hope will be an all-inclusive place? because godaddy, you have 21 is million customers. and shopify has 2 million. yet their market cap is bigger. i would think that you'd look at them and say we want to take those guys on. enter yeah, you know, for our customers commerce is a core spaibility they need, and it's one of our biggest strategic priorities. we've been investing in commerce for a couple of years now. we hit a major milestone, we hit 2 billion in annual withized gbp in the last quarter. that's a big number. it's tiny bits of selling, and we want our customers the these capability ifs. our commerce offering, liz, is growing, is stronger, it's going to be better and better and better. and who do we bring it for? for our existing customers. we're not out there looking for new customers, trying to get them to take god daddy's

commerce offering. you have a great relationship with us, we have all these offerings, we have the one-stop shop and, by the way, we have the best value for money, the best pricing in commerce, in payments, and if you work with godaddy, you can have a broader or relationship with us. and our customers, we already are -- they already love us. 65 plus, they want that relationship with us, and we're converting them. liz: you know, we had your founder, bob parsons, on my podcast. we're going to drop that soon. i hope you will listen because it is an incredible story of success. he founded godaddy in the late '9990s, and enough to taken that ball and run wit. congratulations. and, by the way, you've given us ammo because tomorrow we are going to talk to shopify president harvey fictioning steven about this budding rivalry about his company and the first quarter earnings report. that's tomorrow right here on "the claman countdown," 3 p.m. eastern. important to note, and we want to show you an intraday here, the market took a stumble right

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border where israel contends a hamas battalions are hiding. troops replaced hamas flags withs israeli flags. ceasefire negotiations still in flux. hamas says its delegation has arrived in cairo for more talks with mediators if egypt and qatar. prime minister benjamin net ap an ya hue saying today that the a hamas proposal yesterday with regarding a ceasefire was not anything like what israel had signed on to. he says it was designed to por -- torpedo entry to after -- around that, and the war will continue until the remaining four terrorist battalions are eliminated. president joe biden speak on capitol hill today to address americans' positions on israel and condemn the ram a pant anti-semitism that has sprungup across the nation since hamas terrorists killed more than 1200 israeli and mesh civilians on october 7th. fox business' grade canty trimble live in d.c. with more, including the president's holocaust remembrance day

remarks. >> reporter: yeah. and in those remarks at the u.s. capitol, president biden condemned what he called a ferocious surge of anti-semitism in the u.s. in general, and he specifically brought up anti-semitism on college campuses saying there is no mace if for it. are he also spoke about the importance of sharing the stories of the holocaust to, in his words, keep teaching the truth. >> too many people denying, downplaying, rationalizing, ignoring the horrors of the holocaust. and october 7th, including hamas' appalling use of sexual violence to torture and terrorize jews, it's absolutely despicable, and it must stop. >> reporter: and you heard the president there bringing up hamas' brutal attack on israel on october 7th. he used the speech to reiterate his support for israel, calling it, quote, ironclad even if we

disagree. at the same time, politico is reporting that the biden administration is holding up the sale of boeing-made precision bombs, sending a political message to israel as president biden faces criticism from members of his own party over his support of israel in an election year. >> the israelis are paying customers for this, and it sends a horrible signal in terms of the u.s. defense industry base to the rest of the world that the government is going to prevent them from completing a legitimate sale that had already been arranged for ideological reasons. so i think this is an awful move for a whole host of reasons. >> reporter: and, liz, at the top you mentioned israel's current operations in rafah. president biden did not bring that the up in his speech today. liz: okay. grady, thank you very much. grady trimble. fox business alert, shares of a.i. darling palinty are on pace for their worst day in nearly

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not outright legalize marijuana, expect white house till has to are review if sign off on in this. but when the dei first made the announcement last week, a lot of tocks responded very well. -- stocks responded very well. to what could a firm reclass question case mean for cannabis business z? joining us now, jim hagedorn, the ceo of scotts miracle gro, the company owned 2brands that.s the -- 21 brands that service the cannabis try. what did you think when you heard this news in. >> we've been hoping for it for long time. it's actually great news. e give credit to president biden for doing what he said he was going to do. what in this does is the tax rate on, with the law the way it is as a schedule i, you cannot debucket business expenses which mean off about aen 800%

effective tax rate -- 80%, which really mean anybody who's taking the chances to go legal can't make money. the federal government's the only one making money on it. so this will allow the business to be treated better x if we could get a little more progress on safer banking which is right now in the nat, that would be awesome because that would -- because you can't bank today, and you have a tax rate of 80%. to anyone who's tried to go legal just really can't make it. people expected these changes to happen, like, 10 year e ago, and so many people are lost everything -- have lost everything by taking a chance on going illegal where the ill lis it market doing really well. everyone who tried to do it the right way can't make any money. liz: your company has whole bunch of names in the high to uponnics and cannabis farming, to-called picks if shovels part of the business. how your hawthorne brands doing? know you just came out with earnings. that were very successful.

your 6-month tock picture if year to date picture look are good. but there was a little bit of a tumble with hawthorne. what to you expect it would do if this is finally reclassified as a schedule i drug? >> well, let me tell you a little bit of dimension on the issues. we probably spent about $1.7 billion buying these brands. these brands are completely legal. our customers are cultivators, and they're on the leaf-touching side s. so they, under these rule, would benefit. nothing changes for us. but they don't have any capital money, so our business has really, really been struggling. liz, we had 18 months ago we had 1300 employees, we have 300. sales were nearly $1.5 billion, today the on a good day it's call it $500 million. you know, it's been pretty much the worst environment we've ever lived in, and it's -- my oldest boy, he's my son, he runs it,

and and i think it's in a lot of ways kind of spoiled his attitude about business. it's really been terrible. and not just terrible for us, but terrible for everybody who's tried to legally sort of do what we're supposed to do which is go with the states, follow regulations, pay taxes -- liz: yeah. >> so hawthorne, it's been terrible, liz. liz: the legalization of recreational marijuana many ohio affected you. i mean, this is where your headquarters are. what kind of business have you seen coming from that? >> it's up. it's up, but it's early days yet with. but i think what -- is a great story because this is a very reliable, you know, republican state at this pointment -- point. and it was, like, 58% in favor of making it legal. so the citizens are in favor of it. it's a lot of times conservative lawmakers sort of take this anti-drug approach that's not

consistent with where the consumers are and the voters are. and so really what we want from politicians is to listen to the voters, that it polls like 770% positive. 70% positive. so ohio's a great story. it will be an important business, for sure. but what it really says is that even in a republican state, if you ask the voters and doha they say, the voters say yes. liz: jim, we're watching it. and you were out there years ago seeing that there was such an opportunity in this part of the business or just watching for those small businesses who are now operating legally to not be with hammered so badly. listen, they want to pay taxes, they just want to be held to the same standards as everybody else. good to see you. >> and have access to banking. liz: yeah. because the banks are disinclined and not allowed to actually let you -- well, not you, you're fine, but some of these cannabis companies do business. we'll be watching i. thank you, jim.

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unconfirmed. it's scuttlebutt, it is interesting. we should point out neither of the parties have come menned what we're hearing but if true it is pretty big. as you know boeing has scrutiny from congress managerial boardroom problems. they need something goldman needed during the financial crisis. they needed something that bank of america needed after the financial crisis. they need warren buffett, a vote of confidence from the "oracle of omaha." from what i understand inside of boeing they are approaching mr. buffett about a strategic investment. again not confirmed. boeing has not gotten back to us. buffett received our request for comment, has not gotten back to us but it is what you're hearing from high level sources. sources i'm talking about people in the m&a business, they are

often former government officials. it is starting to get out, they are talking about approaching him. i don't know if they did. this is clearly in the water here at milkin. as you know, liz there is no bigger epicenter of power of financing in government than here. trust me the people i spoke to are major players in that nexus. that is one thing kind of out there. the other thing that is fascinating here, more stuff on shari redstone, who she might pick as potential buyer of paramount or her stake in paramount. there are two deals she is weighing in. one involves skydance and redbird. kind of like a reverse merger. she sells her stake in max amusement which controls paramount to skydance. skydance essentially merges back into paramount, creates a new company. she gets paid a couple billion dollars. shareholders don't like that deal but she still likes it

despite the fact that apollo hasn't come out with a major counteroffer. what i am hearing from the shari people, is simply this. they are here by the way. they don't think that deal will pass regulatory approval. too much foreign ownership, private equity. the justice department doesn't like it could be stuck in the courts for years and that they need to better explain the skydance structure to, as a positive for common shareholders before they give up the ship and she still is favoring the skydance deal, skydance redbird we should point out for a lot of reasons including mr. ellison as you know, the younger mr. ellison, who this is his business, doing movies and it is an american ownership. so it has a better chance of getting through the regulatory apparatus in washington. so that's what i'm hearing here, neil,. liz, it is a fascinating conference. the buffett stuff is

fascinating. as soon as i get a confirm, deny, whatever, i will be back to you. liz: yeah. >> it will be on my twitter page. keep an eye on this boeing story. boeing as you know has got a long process to get better. they have to clean up a lot of stuff. a society of confidence from buffett, he, might want to ask why does he wants to do it? remember buffett likes duopolies. it is still a duopoly, it is airbus and boeing. liz: when you say duopoly, you mean a moat of competitiveness. are only two in the nation world who do this, airbus consortium. about that, charlie, though, let's talk about warren buffett as a bank because back during the financial crisis he jumped in and bailed out essentially goldman sachs with a five billion dollar cash infusion on very helpful terms to buffett by the preferred shares. he made 3 billion on that deal. >> what was the line he gave

you? he gave you the greatest line about that and i'm going to butcher it, didn't he say he made like a million dollars a minute on that deal. liz: something like that. >> something, by the way, that's what he is, if this does happen, you know it's going in that area they're going to do a preferred stock deal where it is a no-lose situation to him because he doesn't give his name to anybody. liz: we will say, we don't know what buffett will do, he has more than 70 companies under his umbrella, two very, excluding netjets a private organization, but he owns flight safety international which trains pilots. >> right. liz: he also has precision cast parts, he owns that outright, which makes metal parts for a lot of aerospace world. >> absolutely. let me ask you this, liz. let me interview you for a change. liz: uh-oh. >> you're the expert on buffett.

there is nobody better than you on buffett. liz: thank you. >> is this something you think he might do? do you think he would do this? liz: if i went inside of his mind, he looks at amazing companies that have a moat of competitiveness who are going through bad times. he always says, charlie, get the quarterback whose leg is in a sling in the hospital, not the one just won the super bowl. because that guy will go down but the guy in the sling will always get better. he wouldn't say no. he would definitely take the call i think and boeing is not going away. >> you answered my question. it's plausible. liz: plausible. >> and it's heating up it's heating up here around the watercooler so to speak. very expensive watercooler. they are high-end spring water, whatever they serve in l.a., your neighborhood. liz: that is my hood. go to nate andal's, get a

westwood sandwich, turkey on rye. >> i will. i did already. liz: i turned him on to nate and al's. closing bell four minutes away. dow well off session highs but it is holding on to gains. if it closes here or anywhere to the upside, it is up 41 points right now, that would be the fifth upside session in a row. s&p up seven points. if it closes to the upside that is four straight gains as well. nasdaq too close to call, down 14. russell up five. china stocks are staging a really strong rally this year. it kind of quietly snuck up on investors. since january 23rd, look at this, nsci index, dragon etf, have outpaced the s&p by a long shot. well why are we looking at january 23rd to today? because january 23rd was the day john nowerry was on this show and pitched chinese stocks

to our investment audience. he joins us again. he is smiling. cio of nfj. a lot of people said chinese stocks are not investable because the government is tinkering too much yet you still went in. are you still there with that much conviction? >> great to see you, liz. yes we are. the reality, when valuations get depressed and when sentiment getting overly negative, particularly when fundamentals have not broken that is when the real opportunity presents itself. we saw that similarly in october of 2022 when valuations got too depressed in the u.s. trading at cheapest valuation in over a decade, it is hard to ignore the second largest economy in the world particularly you think about the fact you're getting things in many cases at the cheapest levels since 2000. liz: send/10 right -- tencent

year-to-date is up 23%. that is big tech conglomerate with gaming and all kinds of things in there. john, are there specific other names you feel have an opportunity to run even if xi xinping wakes up on the wrong side of the bed, says, yeah, i think i will make some new regulation about chinese online education stocks which he has done in the past? >> he has. i mean i think the reality is, you know, if you look at the chinese economy, i think they are beginning to grow more comfortable with the fact that they are going to have to work with business leaders. you know, jack ma, his chairman made a large personal investment in alibaba earlier this year. you're seeing similar types of moves from pony ma at tencent. i think management teams at these large companies are trying to communicate better with the chinese communist party that allows for some comfort that being said, liz, i do think

investors should be diversified in the emerging market exposure. one other thing i would mention, you asked about other companies, lux share precision, a company you may have heard of, heard of products, printed on back of ipod cases people have in their pockets right now, 70% of their revenue comes from apple. reality it is hard to be bullish on some large companies in the u.s. and not be bullish on some of the companies directly related to the supply chain clearly in china. liz: echo systems out there. great job operating the camera with your feet. what were you doing? here we go. [closing bell rings] the dow and s&p continue their hot streaks. the nasdaq, not so much down about 12 points. tomorrow shopify's harvey finkelstein and williams company ceo. ♪. larry: hello, folks, welcome to "kudlow," i'm larry kudlow.

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