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quick senator, mr. majority leader, senator kearns, how do

you vote? senator bullock? >> yes, mr. president, i rise to explain my vote. >> please proceed. >> it is an unusual for arizona to generate headlines in mid november, 2022, phoenix, arizona made national headlines. in one article the headline read body of pre-born child down set ablaze in phoenix oma scam. later we learned the body was of a deceased pre-born child estimated to be between 20 and 24 weeks. as many people know, a child of

this age born prematurely would have had a chance of survival. yet, in january of 2023 their current governor threat in the legislation that she would support homeless pregnant women like the homeless pregnant women services. since 2018 the state's budget included dollars for the services that supports nonprofits. if you aren't familiar with maggie's place, they support pregnant homeless women throughout their pregnancy and their children's first year of life. maggie's place has for maternity homes throughout the valley and is a help or resources in the central phoenix area. some of these homeless, pregnant women might have a substance abuse disorder, fleeing a horrific domestic abuse situation or are survivors of human trafficking. it cost $26,000 a year to house with one mom. but with inflation costs continuing to rise, it has created challenges for this local nonprofit. it. like other nonprofits in arizona families, they have a hard time keeping their food pantry's to up -- dog.

it feeds current women and graduates of the program. there is a huge demand from homeless pregnant women who need the resources provided by maggie's place. in march of 2023 it was reported that maggie's place receives 20 calls a week from women actively seeking resources in housing. last year state budget that was passed in june did not include any money to help these most vulnerable arizona residents. homelessness is often a complex issue, not always with one solution. the women who stay at maggie place is strong, independent mothers. they were awarded 100 thousand dollars annually. due to rising amounts it doubled in price. this was something part of the state budget. apparently the reason why the current governor cut the funding from last year's budget was because the grant money could not be granted for abortion referral services or distributed to entities that promote, refer or perform abortions. programs like maggie's plays were designed to help homeless

pregnant moms maintain pregnancy and have a healthy birth and healthy baby. these women and families have chosen to parent over getting an abortion. they need special care. our governor used to be a social worker, she should understand how critical it is for these homeless, pregnant moms to get the care, nutrition and housing they need to thrive. what hobbes did last year was leave them homeless pregnant women on the streets instead of ensuring they had access for tools to be confident and successful parent. their current governor chose abortion over supporting those vulnerable homeless pregnant women as a legislator in the previous governor had done for the last legislative sessions since 2018. by way of explain my vote i would like to share the chronicle of three pregnancies. pregnancy number one, a time not too long ago a young working woman felt like she was coming down with the flu. after two or three days of taking the flu medication she decided maybe she should take a pregnancy test, even though she looked at her calendar and it seemed too early to determine if you might be pregnant.

she wrote to the store and bought a pregnancy test, the test was positive, but she figured she would take the second test to verify solidity. she was both elated and nervous. morning sickness became a real issue, she learned of her pregnancy around week three. everything made her nauseous. how is she supposed to drive to work and carry on? she ended up carrying plastic garbage bags in her car in the event she felt the urge to vomit. she even had trouble keeping down basic saltine crackers as she sipped water and flavored electrolytes. she scheduled an appointment to see her ob end. sadly, she ended up in the emergency room for severe dehydration before her first scheduled visit. the emergency requested that she pee into a cup to verify her pregnancy. for nearly an hour they pricked her arms to find a vein so they could administer an iv. they found that -- finally found a willing vein to cooperate. both of her arms turned purple. she laid down in the emergency room bed watching the liquids enter the plastic tubing inserted into her arm drip by

drip. they added antinausea medicine and she drifted off to sleep. a nurse brought her ginger ale and two packets of saltine crackers. around the sixth week of her pregnancies she scheduled her ob appointment. >> point of order being called. please speak into your microphone, senator. >> she checked in with the reception -- >> hold on, a point of order has been called. please rise and make your point of order. >> i'm asking that she stick to it -- she stick to the repeal of the bill. she's kind of going off in a number of areas. i would ask that she stick to what's on the board. >> the request is that you make your comments to remain to the bill. >> at her first appointment the young woman was given the option of having a transvaginal ultrasound. the doctor told the woman it was too early to detect the baby's heartbeat but the doctor would order a trans abdominal

ultrasound. the doctor reaffirmed morning sickness with normal and would hopefully subside. >> point of order has been called. senator? >> mr. president, this bill is to repeal a ban on abortion, the good senator from district two is not speaking to the bill of repealing an abortion ban. she speaking to many other things. this bill is specifically to repeal the abortion ban. not all abortions. >> can you please explain how your comments are germane to the bill? >> the doctor offered to write a prescription for antinausea medication since the wristbands were not working. >> senator, i need you to explain why your comments are germane to the bill? >> the comments are germane because not every pregnancy is the same. >> ok, proceed. >> at the same appointment she got her doctor telling her that she needs to eat small bland meals and that would not trigger

her nausea. she stocked up on sourdough, applesauce, bananas. she felt decent but was admitted into the emergency room for severe dehydration. she made the routine of being admitted to the er. it was exhausting and not good for her overall morale. a few days later she went to her neck scheduled ob appointment. the same young woman's medical staff administer the ultrasound she had learned about. she was told this ultrasound would confirm her pregnancy by detecting a heartbeat and to confirm gestational age and due date. the technician inserted the ultrasound into her. after a few minutes of probing the wand they detected the baby's heartbeat. after the appointment she was feeling better, the following weekend she shared news with close friends and family, even though it was early in the pregnancy. when she got home from visiting her family the next day, the young woman was feeling weak and exhausted. she was ready around the 11th week mark and getting weak again. the young woman woke up from

severe cramping, she could barely move. she found herself trying to walk up the stairs of her two-story home. she did not have the strength to make it up the steps. she made her first -- her best effort to contact the baby's father, but there was a strike at the local telephone company so it was difficult to track him down. she mustered up strength and drove to the nearest emergency room. at this point she felt like she needed a frequent visitor card and still had to submit a urinalysis even though they knew she was pregnant. she waited in the cold waiting room to be called. it felt like hours went by. she felt alone and was nauseous. after she was finished in triage, had her vitals taken, they set up a single occupancy room. the on-call emergency room doctor ordered an ultrasound. she finally wheeled into a dark room that had an ultrasound machine. she was asked to sit on the ultrasound table with her abdomen exposed. a non-english speaking muslim woman performed her ultrasound. she could not see the facial

expression because it was covered by the veil. she tried to make eye contact but she could barely see her eyes. the expectant mother asked questions but the medical professional did not speak english, so neither woman could communicate with one another and there wasn't an interpreter or anyone else in the room. since this medical professional did not speak english, it made it harder to be in the room together while her abdomen was poked and prodded. tears came down the mother's face. this young mom had some any questions and answers. she was in pain due to cramping. the medical professional wasn't being gentle when she probed into her abdominal region and typed onto her medical keyboard paired after this young woman was done having her ultrasound she was wheeled into her emergency room. she waited hours for the on-call emergency room doctor to return to get her ultrasound results. the doctor said the baby isn't viable and no longer has a heartbeat. from there the young mother cried and to doubt the doctor and the doctor said you need a dnc. the mother said, what is a d&c. that doctor responded quite

bluntly it's like having an abortion. this young woman felt alone. no longer with the child beating heart and the doctor is telling her to abort. the young woman's that i don't want a d&c. the young woman's partner made it to the hospital only to hear the unfortunate news that they had lost their baby. the doctor responded you need to have this procedure and we need to get you back to having menstrual periods. your ob office will call you to book an apartment. this young woman was having a panic attack. the emergency room doctor told her she needs to get dressed and checked out of the hospital. she was told to go home and get rest after telling her d&c was like having an abortion. while she was getting checked out the hospital staff told her to expect a call from her ob to schedule her surgery. everyone was so politicals she just lost her baby. feeling hopeless and depressed, she went home and cried. that night she spoke with her mother who encouraged her to proceed. the next day she received a call from her obis office to schedule the d&c. over the phone she heard the

office tell her they would test the fetal tissue for chromosome abnormalities with the hope of giving a result she could one day get pregnant. several months after her d&c, she received multiple medical bills for the emergency room visits and her d&c. the medical bills were breathtakingly expensive. she had been in between jobs. pregnancy number two, a young woman had hopes and dreams in her new life, looking for adventure, she and her husband set eyes on a new chapter with the hope of having a family. after returning from a trip, the couple found out they were expecting. they were both excited about the prospect of starting a family. two kids would be perfect since i have two hands. as they made plans to welcome a baby into the family, the expectant mother found herself hospital down. she was losing weight, not gaining weight. her diet encompass canned peaches and lemon flavored luna bars during the first trimester, along with flintstone vitamins. any otis set -- odor set her

nausea in motion. she was driving home and was t-boned by a large dodge ram. since the driver hit her vehicle and the driver side, her ob ordered an emergency ultrasound to check on the placement of the placenta. the baby's gender was revealed that needed to be verified at a later appointment since it was early to be accurate. the couple spent time preparing for their baby, having -- restore her pregnancy, she prepared the baby's nursery. she attended child birthing classes and they encouraged a birth plan. in her birth plan she wanted to bond with the baby by breast-feeding. she did not want supplemental baby formula for her baby. she skipped the last class dedicated to see sections. she read baby books designed for expectant parents and figured she did not need to sit through a class to hear what she already read. near the end of her pregnancy the couple switched hospitals in obs because they were not comfortable with the large hospitals, which their previous doctor was affiliated. they thought they looked more

like baby factories than birth centers. her due date was approaching and she was sent to the hospital. the medical team determine breaking her water would speed up your labor since she was dilated. she labored for many hours without an epidural. her husband applied pressure to ease contractions, but her husband was concentrating on eating ben & jerry's ice cream as her contraction became more powerful. he reassured her that they would get through this and the ice cream would help keep his strength. >> point of order. >> we cannot have any outbursts from the gallery, please. one of order has been called.

ok. senator, can you please summarize your explanation of your vote? >> sure. somewhere in the middle of the night they requested pain meds. after hearing women down the hall screaming there was an ax murderer on the floor a team of medical professionals tried everything. the baby decided to greet the world. 20 hours later she was wheeled into the operating room for an emergency c-section. they prepped her first surgery. after they prepped her abdomen. it was cut open to bring life to her baby outside the womb. she could not see what was going on since there was a curtain blocking her. a team of doctors shouted this kid is ready for the third grade. they asked the mother she had gestational diabetes. they whisked her baby away with the dad while she was sent to a

recovery room. she finally got to meet her baby, he was everything and more. number three, who knew a toddler could consume a mom's entire world. she planned her day learning and exploring the world. her life came to a stop when she found out she was pregnant again. a month into her pregnancy she started to bleed. her ob request you get an ultrasound to check on the baby. she was diagnosed. she was no longer to pick up her toddler or do the normal chores she did. after being in the hospital twice, the emergency room decided the best course of action was a implant an iv into her arm and send her home. she had a nurse stop by her house once a week to check her vitals to make sure she was using the iv properly by cleaning the line and hooking up the iv bag. out a precaution was ordered to bed rest. people around her said the pregnancy wouldn't be fair to their toddler. one individual said this mom should get an abortion. 23 weeks of bed rest with a toddler in tow, this mom survive.

one day she found them putting up plastic. there are only two requests we can hope to give our children's. when his roots in one his wings. the mom went into labor even though she was scheduled for a c-section. the baby was born via scheduled c-section. this baby is loved by all in the world is your oyster. many women don't have textbook pregnancies while many women wish they could have a baby. i know the chronicles of these pregnancies intimately because they are all my own. my family has lived and survived each one of them including my miscarriage. i had morning sickness and was dehydrated making it difficult to do much. from losing a baby through miscarriage and having a doctor with terrific bedside manner tell me quite bluntly a d&c was an abortion to ending up with a medical bill around $12,000 to come home with no baby. through ups and downs in tears and joy, life was created in my two kids were born into this crazy world. i love them so much. my son was 10 pounds 10 ounces. he was far larger than my

daughter when he was born then when she was even three months old. he looked around the room without me assisting his head from wobbling. my kids are now young adults ages 19 and 22. as you have heard, none of my pregnancies were easy and none would have been possible without the moral support of my husband. i experienced a few medical emergencies during my pregnancies. i'm thankful i was blessed with two children. some people say i have a million-dollar family because i have one boy and one girl. i believe mastercard would say there are some things money can't buy and everything is priceless. having a d&c because the baby wasn't viable was tough. would arizona's pre-row law have allowed me to have this procedure? one pro-life individual who reach out to me even wrote, is there a definition for unless it is necessary to save her life, she asked me. maybe medical doctors could weigh in, i don't know, over the years i had a chance to meet

individuals who survived abortions. some have permanent scars like missing limbs. other people were told by their adopted families they were not there birth parents but they were wet made their families complete. thankfully these beautiful human beings were lovingly adopted into these families, some have siblings and their adopted parents were unable to have a baby of their own and we are blessed to have a family by way of adoption. in 2019i saw a movie when it came out in the movie theaters. it's very rare for me to go to the movies. i cannot imagine working in a place like planned parenthood or feeling like an expecting mom that i have no alternative other than seeking an abortion. i have met individuals who have worked for planned parenthood. these individuals have dedicated their livelihoods to educating the community of the horrors inside it. planned parenthood is often conflicted with state laws around our country. planned parenthood will not report suspected sexual abuse or statutory rape to law enforcers. a national pattern has emerged

showing planned parenthood's failures to show sex crimes against underage teens. with a wide open border and rising child sex trafficking cases, we will never know the real numbers. in arizona if you are pregnant 13-year-old you can get it abortion planned parenthood without parental consent. but if you want to get a tattoo or piercing you need to be 18 years of age or receive parental consent if you are under 18. but if you want to get an abortion you can get one at age 13 and your parents would never know. many people know i was not born in arizona, but i have come to appreciate some of its history. there is one thing in the history, we should remove it from our state history book. one of the women inducted into arizona women's hall of fame in 1991 is none other than margaret sanger. her book titled women in the new ray stated the most merciful thing that the large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it. and birth control is nothing more or less than the facilitation of the process of weeding out the unfit of

preventing the birth of defectives are those who will become defective. planned parenthood set up shop in black neighborhoods to try to eradicate the entire race. one of my best friends is black and i'm so thankful he's here. there's nothing mentioned in this bill that takes away the profits of planned parenthood or asked individuals who abort their babies to have these tiny bodies cremated or buried and not sold to big pharma. in fact, the constituents in district two had the same sentiment. in 1977 there arizona legislator reenacted this territorial legislation. this pre-row law signed by then democrat that it would delay the date until october 1, 1978 so then another legislative session could consider the new code and add other changes and amendments. the legislator did that during the session when it enacted chapter 20 one, which means significant additions to the criminal laws in arizona. dr. babbitt became governor on march 4, 19 78. he signed chapter 201.

change was made in the abortion law and the governor to not asked for one. the law was put on the books by democratic governor. i'm not sure why they did not repeal this law when they had democratic governors without the conversation for another time. when i was recruited in june of 2023, i was asked to come back and serve after having a six-month hiatus. as many of you know i was appointed to fill this vacancy after serving in the house for four years. many people knew when they recruited me back to talk about the issue that i really cared about most. and that's educational freedom. from working with the gdp program of inner cities are my early mornings on saturday spent on the baseball diamond working the new york city public high school. i had a chance to work with low income families working jobs and some stuck on government assistance with little chance of upward mobility. but all these parents and grandparents shared something in common. all these families want their children to have a better education just like i want my kids to have the best up -- best

education. my predecessor elected to the sea in november of 2022 supported abortion limits with the exceptions of rape, incest the life of the mother. republican priestess -- precinct men asked me to serve and likes of steve kaiser. in 2023i do not fill out any surveys during the appointment process. on june 26, 2023, 122 republican precinct committee members assembled and voted to add my name to the list of three men sent to the board of supervisors. i was interviewed by the maricopa county board of supervisors. on july 19 the board of supervisors met and unanimously appointed me to the position. in the afternoon on july 21, my husband administered my oath to uphold the constitution laws of the land. mark my words, the territories journal law, lawyers will lawyer up, the territorial law will never go in effect. voters will decide they support a 15 week limit that will take effect 90 days after the arizona

abortion access act abortion on demand up to the moment of birth -- birth. arizona's governor has gone on national television to raise money for planned parenthood's dangerous abortion access act, absolutely disgusting. as a pro like myself, we should be pushing for the maximum protection for unborn children that can be sustained over time. since roe v. wade fell, it has been a call to action for the pro-life community to step up its efforts to provide support for women facing unwanted pregnancies considering their circumstances. in november 20 202i went on a pregnancy center and they are a wonderful resource and more pregnant mothers need to learn about. they have the tools to become strong mothers as they bring their babies into the world. recently someone shared a student b anthony doorhanger online stating, most people favor limits on abortions. they support limits on abortions where an unborn baby can see, hear and feel pain.

planned parenthood, there is on abortion pill access act goes way too far. if this initiative passes, it would amend the arizona constitution and cannot be adjusted by us lawmakers here for any future concerns. the current safeguards and protections in place that protect young girls and women seeking abortion from an abortion clinic would be removed. if this initiative passes it would need a required medical doctor trained to handle any complications. it prohibits punishments for people who take girls to get an abortion. if a child is six traffic they could take the victim to get an abortion to cover their crime and her parents would never be notified and they could not be prosecuted, ever. very little legislation written and signed into law is ever perfect. until we have a better choice in this matter, i side with saving our babies lives. i want to protect state constitution for an unlimited abortions. cliques proceed. >> i want to protect our state

constitution from unlimited abortions up until the moment of birth with planned parenthood abortion access act. i am here to protect more babies. i vote either. >> did you want to explain your vote? did you wish to explain your vote? ok, go ahead. >> ok, yes, thank you, mr. president, i would like to explain my vote. this is a clear statement that the legislator does not want the

territorial band to be enforceable and i vote yes. >> the senator votes yes. mr. majority leader do you wish to explain your vote? >> yes, mr. president, i rise to explain my vote. thank you, mr. president and i could just start off with mayday, mayday, mayday. ladies and gentlemen in the gallery, folks watching online, what you just witnessed was a violation of the process. a complete violation of the process. no committee, no debate in committee. we have to do it here during third read. when everything was bypassed, no committees, no discussions. yes, it has been highlighted.

they call it a territorial law. that's a false narrative. completely false narrative. it has been spoken about in the house, spoken about here today. in 19 -- four years after roe was decided, in 1977, a democrat governor, a democrat-controlled senate voted for what we should actually call it, the statute realignment bill. because that's actually what it did. if we could've had a debate in committee, we could've actually found out what the reasoning is and may be explanation or justification with somebody who is actually an eyewitness to that in 1977 is actually a current senator now. but we don't have those answers because we didn't have a debate.

but unfortunately this false narrative is perpetuated by the progressive propaganda partners purposely perpetrating a false narrative. it's not the territorial law, it's not the statehood arrow law , it's a 1977 law. it was codified, re-codified. numerous opportunities. i will give credit where credit is due. what's the hurry, right? because your partners in the media, they even highlighted it, one of our local publications that the democrats have seized on to this to enjoy a political fundraising boost from the 18 624 law.

without seeing it go into effect. that's verbatim. i won't give credit to the author, his head will get too big. >> please. hang on, ladies and gentlemen, please, in the gallery. we know why you are here. we are different than the folks that, two years ago, tried to bust into the senate and dps was called and they had to fight teargas right after the roe decision. those pro-choice people rioted and broke into the building and vandalized. you are not them. please maintain order. where was i?

false narrative, right. the democrats, in 1977, had an opportunity to strike and repeal, but they didn't, they recodified it in the democrat governor signed it into law. i'm old enough to remember certain things back in the 1960's and 1970's. what happened to the democratic party? at one time they were pro-life. until the sts had something else to champion after the vietnam war. infiltrated academia, became obsessed with the environmental movements and so on and so forth and infiltrated the democratic party and was no longer pro-life. things have changed. this country is on the verge of

collapse i have compassion for the woman who has been raped or incest, i have compassion for that. but i cannot go against my core value of life if a woman is raped, get her to the hospital, get a great kid, let's get some dna on these dirt bags and throw them in prison forever. unfortunately we have members on the floor that vote against these kind of things. stiffer penalties for sexual sex crimes. human trafficking, sex trafficking. incest. hey, let's lock these dirt bags up. and, if you do get your partner pregnant, and you don't stand up as a man to take care of that

child, i condemn any man that won't do that. i adopted my son from a marriage when he was an adult. yes, i raised him since he was six years old. guys have problems with that in man doesn't. but we have party opposites who keep wanting to divide and call us, what is it, toxic masculinity. when you see somebody being assaulted you better pray that some toxic manual escape -- masculinity man goes over there and saves you. we have men in uniform, that's toxic masculinity. women, god bless them, that are in uniform, i served in the marines for 20 years. i had women in my charge, i

would've traded for 10 jobs and some of these guys. but now i got to make a choice. literally what we are having here is a violation of the process. this law won't even go into effect until 90 days after signing it on. the supreme court ruling, even the attorney general's asking for the a delay and of course that attorney general is not going to enforce city laws that she chooses, amazing. i'm not a perfect man, i have my flaws. may not even be a righteous man. but if i got to choose between a life of the unborn,

unfortunately on the circumstances, men need to step up. take care business. take care of your children. even if you are not going to get married. but the process has been violated. this is the wrong answer for this to be happening this way. for example, there should have been amendments on this, rape, incest. it should have been on their. but, we were all robbed of that opportunity for debate. in reason. nothing we do here is perfect. nothing is written in stone. it's written in black-and-white, it's written on paper so we can amend it, we can fix it, we can adjust.

but, we throw away good for perfect. some of you want to laugh at me, go ahead and laugh, i don't give a damn. but i have to look at myself in the morning every morning with a sharp object next to my neck when i'm shaving and in good conscious i have to follow my heart. mr. president, i don't know. >> the majority leader votes no. senator rogers. >> mr. president i rise to explain my vote. we live in arizona, the hardscrabble west. in 1864 i believe our

territorial forbearers got it right. because life is unavailable. life in 1864 is no different than life in 2024. 160 years later life is precious . and i will hear my colleagues say, but it's politically expedient for us to moderate. it's politically pragmatic for us to find middle ground. it's politically astute because we might lose votes, we might lose the legislator, we might

lose the presidential election. we might use federal -- lose federal elections. and i say to you, it's more important to do what's right because maybe not in this life, but after this life we won't meet our maker. in whatever fate -- faith you are, this is what matters. we have been given the gift of life. and we have given and passed on the gift of life. and so, when senator burley and i took the oath -- when the saturday and i took the oath of office to support and defend the constitution of the united states, that's a lifetime oath

to support life. and when someone says to you, well what about this issue? my response is, what about those who have no voice? what about those in the womb who are crying out to be born, to live? they have no voice. we are their voice. if not for us, they have no voice. it is our charge, it is our obligation, it is our moral fiber that we give them voice to be able to be born, to live, to become americans. we are americans, we celebrate

life, we celebrate the right to life. we celebrate the right to be born. we celebrate to uphold life and life starts at conception. who are we to say otherwise? it is an unavailable truth. they got it right in 18 sisi for , we need to continue to get it right in 2024. and with that, i vote nay. like senator rogers fouts nay. greg thinks you -- thank you mr. president, may i explain my vote? >> thank you, i did not know we could have 30 minute explanations, but there with me, sir. the epitome of dilution is

saying i am pro-life yet voting to repeal -- voting to repeal an abortion van. i've heard that on the campaign trail, i am pro-life, but, i want to save babies, but, i'm going to go ahead and vote to repeal an abortion band that the best abortion ban in the nation. this abortion is one of the tenants, one of the ground, one of the principles of the republican party. and yet, again, we have two republicans voting with the democrats to repeal an abortion ban while saying -- that's kind of like nazi germany where the nazis said choose, you have something, you vote the death chamber, you jews can work the

fields. it's wrong. that's kind of like, if you remember back when there was a white female democrat standing behind larry elder with the gorilla mask saying larry elder is the face of white supremacy. that just doesn't make sense, it doesn't compute. it's dilution. when we go against the bigger picture, is the word of god, which is right here, media, which you all hate, i'm sure. the word of god says, only righteousness exalts a nation. the word today is a god that does not change. i got the same as yesterday, today and forever. and my colleague, senator rogers

just said, one day we will stand before god. last week i was here when they did the house thing, i could feel the oppression in the house. thank you republican three. i could feel the oppression over there when we are actually voting for death. the democrat party stands and runs on death. the republican party stands and is supposed to run on life. i remember last week when i spoke at a press conference that we had probably 200, 300 people there. most of you were there, thank you for being here today. i appreciate everyone of you. when i spoke at that press conference i did not know what i was going to say, but i know what i did for that moment, i will have the words that i need to say for that time. and i looked at the crowd and i

saw little children on both sides. on my left and on my right, caring pictures, of which i have one here under my desk, but i didn't know the rules. i promised joe that i would not bring it out, and i will not, because it does break the rules to do that. i apologize. but i was at the press conference and i saw these children holding signs of aborted babies. dear god, folks. look at those pictures, arizona. look at those pictures, america. if you can look at those pictures and you just think that is just tissue, you really need a check up, you really need some help. and i looked at one of the pictures, and there was an aborted baby with his head crushed on his left side. his eyes were dilated, he was dead. i looked at that picture and i

said, young man, i don't know who you are, i know you are in heaven today, but i'm going to speak for you. and today i speak for him. i get the politics of this nonsense. i get the politics of the donors and the republicans, and all that stuff. why can't we show the nation that we are unified on pro-life? we will have the blessing of god over the state if we do that. we have a law in place. 131105 was brought to me by my friend senator burley. maybe i shouldn't say this because i'm sure katie hobbs when it enforces either or attorney general maze because

they are very selected and the laws that they choose to enforce. a person commits first-degree murder if, section one, a person commits first-degree murder -- murder if intending or knowing that the person's conduct will cause death, including an unborn child. section c, an offense under section eight applies to an unborn child in the womb at any stage of development. that is for first-degree murder. let's go to second-degree murder. 1104, a person commits second-degree murder if there is an intentional death of another person, another person, oh my god, including an unborn child, which tells me an unborn child

is a person. and according to senator rogers, our constitution guarantees the life of the individual. but here we are, again, breaking the constitution. section b, an offense under this section applies to an unborn child in the womb at any stage of development. that must mean conception, which i firmly believe in 100% and will die on this hill, life begins at conception because i know i have to stand before god one day and give an account and he's not going to ask me did i win the next election. he's not going to asked me did the big donors give you a nice check because you voted the way i wanted -- they want you to. let's go to manslaughter. a person commits manslaughter by doing any of the following.

number five says knowingly or recklessly causing the death of an unborn child by any physical injury to the mother, and then section c says, an offense under section a paragraph five applies to an unborn child in the womb, most destructive place to be in america is in the womb. in the womb or at any stage of its development. that's current law, folks. right here, look it up. but yet, we are here also to take a current law, which was again signed by a democrat governor, voted on by a democrat that's in the senate chamber right now, voted in favor. and now, because of our moral backslide, we are here voting to

repeal this. and i also want to say this to it arizonans and to you in the gallery. if you have had an abortion, my heart goes out to you because the lie is, you can have an abortion and move on, and i don't think that's true. i'm not a female, think glad i'm not. there are only two genders, folks, male and female, right. but i do know, i come from a family of 13 brothers and sisters and my mom was the most pro-life women i've ever met in my dad had to make a decision when my little brother was being born, the life of the mother or the life of my little brother. he chose a life of my mother and my little brother john is buried in the cemetery in minnesota. he is in heaven today. but i do want to say if you have had an abortion, there is forgiveness at the cross of jesus christ. and never forget that, you can be healed of that. sin is sin.

i said earlier that everything the democrat party touches turns to garbage. it's very evident by the current administration in our white house, and in other areas of government, but mainly in our white house. in arizona you have attorney general maze picking and choosing which laws she wants to enforce. give me a break. and her cohort, katie hobbs. immigration, you see american deaths, you see illegal aliens being given thousands of dollars while we are not being -- while our veterans are not being taken care of. you see inflation, shrinkflation, what's happening on our universities. universities were built for missionaries for pastors to train them to teach the gospel. that's where a lot of these universities were built, just a little history lesson for the corrupt media.

let's go to abortion. just a few years ago we were talking about partial birth abortion. we saw the pictures of a baby being pulled out of a womb, knife stabbed in the back of the neck in the brain sucked out, then the dead baby is delivered. you saw the planned parenthood videos and you saw the v human destruction of planned parenthood going after the project, but you saw the little petri dishes of little arms and little heads and little torsos. we just heard last week, mile rodriguez, i believe her name was, i heard her speaking at an event telling me she was at planned parenthood for 18 years putting these little torsos and little's goals, and little arms in garbage bags.

i am just very sad that our republican party can't come together on this and can't work something out. we're pushing this bill through because we think it's going to win the next election when i believe just the opposite. if we unify behind life, we would absolutely win this next election. lastly, i want to say, yesterday we had -- we didn't -- the democrat party did. drag queen in the basement of our house of representatives. yesterday, we had a drag queen show by the democrat party -- >> point of order has been called. >> senator melendez, what's your point of order? >> this has nothing to do with

abortion. >> senator kern make sure you're germane to the bill. >> the germanness is saying that i'm pro-life and voting to repeal an abortion law. yesterday, we had the drag show or the democrat party had the drag show in the arizona house of representatives. you see what's going on across the nation. the voters are not dumb. they know what's going on. and the voters i talked to asked us to keep the life as the number one thing. again, righteousness exalts a nation. we, as republicans gave up on the marriage issue. what does the bible say about marriage? now we're asked to give up on the life issue. and i guarantee you that's the peed feel yeah issue because that was here in the arizona

house of representatives in the basement. it's coming. and the reason it's coming is because we have no moral obligation. when god says the shed of the innocent blood brings a curse and sit something that he hates, the shed of innocent blood. this is innocent blood. and the craziest thing i've seen and heard is that i'm pro-life yet i'm going to vote to repeal the abortion ban. that is insanity to me. america, we're definitely in a downside as we all know. the republican party is not going to save us. we tried that for four or five decades. the democrat party definitely is not going to save us. at least with the republican party, you have a little hope. and i think the next president of the united states, d.j.t.,

donald j. trump will absolutely propel this nation back into greatness. but our only hope is jesus chris. if my people who are called by my name will humble themselves, turn from their wicked ways, then i will heal their land. and until we understand who we will give an account to, until we understand that, we're going to keep sliding down that hill to destruction. and once we lose america, which i believe the other party really hates this country because if you want to destroy a country you're going to do everything the current administration is doing. and until we get back on our face before god and say lord, help us find our way back, i think when we do that, our country will turn. until we go down this path and

keep going down this path and keep believing the lies and keep believing the dilution, it's going to be a hard road up. i am running for congress to the senator that said that, but that was repulsive what she said, by the way. and we're going to call for impugning. this is what i believe and, you know, that i believe in jesus christ. i believe in life. i will never waver. i don't care if i win or lose. i know in the end i winch and with that i absolutely vote no. >> senator kern votes no. senator hernandez? >> thank you, mr. president, i rise to explain my vote. >> proceed. >> i'm not running for congress at polling at 3% so i'm going to keep my explanation short. i just want to clear something up about the messaging around that this bill was that this law was signed in 1977 by a democratic governor, but the

reality is that in 1977 the entire criminal code which is hundred pages long was restructured or renumbered. the bill was 180 sections. the abortion ban was located in one single line and it simply stated that it was renumbered from x to y. we vote on hundred of such technical changes each session. this session has been no different. and to cherry pick one -- one item from nearly 50 years ago shows just how hard the people that are making this argument are grasping for straws. there's no defense for the territorial ban. that's all that's left. that is false narrative that this was signed in 1977 by a democratic governor. roe was in play in 1977 and the law in arizona was unenforceable. i could add so many more reasons why that narrative is false, but i'll leave it at that and with

that i vote aye. >> senator hernandez votes aye. >> senator wazaak. and we need to get senator kern, he has to -- here we go. >> thank you, mr. president, i rise to explain my vote. >> proceed. >> since the arizona supreme court made their curiously timed ruling, i have been clear about my position and have made that even more clear with my vote. i am pro-life. i was elected as a pro-life candidate and i will continue to vote to protect life. but at this point, i have to wonder why are we etch taking this vote -- even taking this vote to repeal a law that those in charge of enforcing it have stated that they will ignore it completely? what makes any of us belief that these same lawless people will enforce the restrictions on

abortion? what they want is the planned parenthood plan, abortion until birth. that is what those using the term abortion care and respective freedom mean. they mean -- reproductive freedom mean. they mean nine months and they need to own. that in order to appease them, we are skipping this entire process as a bill that usually takes months to rush an appeal of the law that has been signed bay democratic governor and it's still being deliberated in the court season. it's not anyone's fault that anyone back then didn't read the bill. in fact, we learned yesterday that our attorney general who refuses to enforce this law is now seeking a stay on the ruling. perhaps we can just change the rules. in this chamber to let her write the law that she wants to enforce so that she doesn't have

to go through all of that trouble. but i can give you a sneak peek of what she wants and sit abortion up until birth. the media who has descended into our state from thousands of miles away is here to promote one cause and one cause only, abortion until birth, nine months. i think they need to be a lot like bill maher and say it like it is he rightly stated those like me who are pro-life are not anti-woman. that's just made up. we do think that abortion like planned parenthood is desperately trying to legalize in this state up until nine months. and it is murder. and those who are on this side of planned parenthood are just ok with that, abortion until nine months. and i appreciate bill haher's honesty.

-- bill maher's honesty. after listening to the different types of pregnancies that one can have, i've had three. and i have two children. the first one i saw, the beating heart of a little baby on a sonna gram and i chose life. she's amazing. she's given me my first grandson. the second one, i lost. it was a miscarriage. god chose when that heartbeat was going stop.

and then it took 10 years to have my second live birth. it is not my job as a state senator to determine when a child's heart stops beating. and with that i vote no. [applause] [cheers and applause] >> senator farnsworth. senator farnsworth, do you wish to explain your vote? >> mr. president, i wish to explain my vote. >> proceed. >> life begins at conception.

and we have the responsibility to protect the most innocent in this world and the most vulnerable in this world. and that is children in the womb. unborn children have a right to live. abortion is murder. i remember when the decision of roev. wade came down. and i remember thinking that it was because of corrupt lawyers and corrupt judges. the ruled wrongfully. and we have had to deal with

that all these years. but i've been able to say in my heart that god would judge those people who ruled that way. now, we have a different situation. we cannot blame this on judges or lawyers. we stand here today to make a choice as has been said. do we choose life or do we choose death? no matter how this vote goes down today, we all need be concerned about that vote in november. and i stand here to say that if america because it's not happening just in arizona but in other states. if america chooses death, then

what right do we have to ask god to bless america? if we turn against our founding principles and say that we don't believe in the right for a child to be born. i'm going to share two very quick versus from the bible. this is something that i've read many times, and i never really understood it, but maybe i do now. it sounds like a warning. oh, asyrian, this is in isaiah chapter 10. oh, ssyrian i will send him against hypocritical nation and against people of my wrath will i give him a charge to take the spoil and to take the prey and

to trade them down like mire in the streets. if we choose death in this country, why should we be protected from other countries? there are countries across this world that would love to come in and take the good things that god has blessed us with. one more. have we become so evil in this country, we cannot blame this on judges and lawyers any more because arizonans, today, we have the responsebility to choose between -- responsibility to choose between life and death on this floor. in november, the people of arizona will have the right or

the responsibility to choose between life or death. and god is watching as has been same and -- been said. and on judgment day we will stand before the lord jesus christ and we will confess that he is the chris: -- the chris, the last comment in genesis chapter 19. then the lord reigned -- rained upon so dom and gomoraah brimstone and fire from heaven. and he overthrew the cities and all the plain and tall inhabitants of the city. with that, mr. president, i vote no. >> senator farnsworth votes no. [applause]

>> senator hof fen, how do you vote? >> senator mesnard. >> mr. . president, i rise to explain my vote. >> proceed. >> mr. president, some of you have watched me down here as i have had the exciting experience the get married to the love of my life and to begin planning a family together. some of you may remember that my first born was born on signee die. how many of you can say that? i wanted to share some of that experience with you all. my wife and i decided we wanted to expand from two to three.

we were excited obviously that we got the news that we were pregnant. excited still to then go and see. and technology is an amazing thing. be able to see our first born on a sonogram via ultrasound. and then to hear her heart beating. that was quite an experience. i can want -- i don't know that i can quite -- some of you may have experienced this so you may know. i can't quite put it into words. i don't know if you could all hear that. but that's the beating heart of my first born daughter when she was around the end of the first

trimester. in that whole experience, i learned a few things. first, as joyous as the occasion was, pregnancy is tough. i didn't have to go through it. i just got to watch. so that was a blessing for me. but pregnancy is difficult. morning sickness, you name it. it's a challenge. your body changes. and that -- having witnessed that firsthand, i can stand up and i can say, pregnancy is joyous, but difficult. i realize that there are some out there who face unplanned pregnancies. and so their feelings on the matter may be different than mine. and yet, the challenge may still

be the same. may be facing financial challenges as whelm candidly, -- as well. candyly, i don't know if us in the pro-life community have done a great job standing up for women in that situation. i don't know that we have. i think we're improving. i think we can do better. i wanted to acknowledge that and i want to support policy that is help women, pregnant women. and that's the right way to say it, by the way, pregnant women, in situation where is they have challenges they're facing. in way that is -- ways that we can come alongside them. another thing i learned when listening to that beating heart is in case there was any doubt, that was a living human being.

and i had the privilege of being able to see it there in front of me and hear it there in front of me. but that cast all doubt aside in case i was thinking this was just a clump of cells, which i'm pretty sure that's what we all are actually is a bunch of cells. there was a beating heart there and i realize there are serious moral implications to the idea that we will just stop it. that we're going stop the beating heart. when there's a beating heart, i think that matters. it used to be that the other -- folks on the other side of the isle, their mantra was, abortion should be safe, legal, and rare. it wasn't so long ago that that was the mantra.

but as i listen from what i hear from the vast majority of them, they seem to be running away from that. in fact, it's almost more aligns closely with republicans today than democrats. and the thing they're running away from seemingly is the word "rare." and i get it. why that word might make people uncomfortable. they -- there are moral implications there why would we want something to be rare unless there was some moral issue at stake which was the case when i witnessed each of the pregnancies. we have four. we lost one. three kids today that are a blessing. i realize that talking about the moral implications of abortion makes people uncomfortable or even angry. after all, if you can convince yourself that we're not talking about a living human being or we

can categorize them in some other way, devalue them in some other ways to remove the moral challenge this poses to those who want abortion on demand up until birth with no restrictions, it makes it a heck of a lot easier, doesn't it? when we can close our eyes to the little human being pictured on the sonogram and we can plug our areas to the innocent beating heart of an innocent person, it does become easier. what really troubles me in the midst of all of, this i hear the other side saying this is just about a woman's choice or maybe a person's choice now. but a woman's choice. and that comes across to me as disingenuous when then i see by their actions efforts to deliberately attack every other

choice possible except for abortion. for instance, i've seen this onslaught against pregnancy resource centers. little mom and pop shops most of them i realize they're not the size of planned parenthood and other abortion providers. so maybe that makes them less appealing to some and easier targets. all they're doing is volunteering their time and their resources to help women in need. and it is true that they will encourage them to choose life. i've seen them attacked for that for encouraging home to choose life. it comes across as disingenuous to me really wants there to be a choice to be honest when i see situations like that. but what's even more troubling to me is the inability -- or

maybe the unwillingness of those who do advocate radical abortion policies to talk about the other living being -- involved. i don't know that my side has done a great job talking about the challenges that pregnant women face especially if it's unplanned or they're fashion financial challenges. i find it really disturbing that the other side bends over backwards to try to avoid any acknowledgement of a living being here. i've never once -- never once heard it from my friends on the other side of the isle in this chamber. not a single time. at least acknowledge it. you can say it has less value. i will disagree with you. you can say that and rationale

lies why we should allow it all the way up until moment of birth. but they can't even -- i've heard people say i'm not going to support this bill because it might be helping pregnant women or it might be dealing with the fact with the fact that you murder a pregnant woman there are two lives there they will say i don't want to do neigh advances the idea that the -- that the -- that the fetus is a person. that is unbelievably disturbing to me. at least confront the moral issue here rather than running away from it. and then, of course, they -- well, when you do that, by the way, history is replete with examples. before you do morally dubious things to people. what is it you do? you label them. you redefine them, you remove their humanity and their value so then it is more justifiable

to do the thing. we can see it in this country where we define people as property. we can see it overseas. you're not the right race. we're going to exterminate you or the right religion. so i get really troubled when we're trying to remove the humanity of the unborn in the womb because that would seem to set us up to do some morally questionable things. and then i hear it glossed over as abortion is healthcare. it is the only healthcare i'm aware of that involves ending a human life except for maybe physician-assisted suicide and while i apose that, at least that person had a choice whereas those in the womb do not. now, i can look at this law on the books, one i've never voted for, and i don't know that i

would have voted for it in this way. i think it needs improvement. i mean, it lax definitions. people have suggested that egg going to pregnancies should be implicated. for me it is not the same situations. or or exceptions. i would support a repeal and replace if that were an option. it's not. the choice for me is whether to repeal it totally leaving almost nothing in flames i realize that the 15-week bill that those on the other side also voted against but that means that 95% of abortions are still ok. we're saving 5% of the unborn. while i think that is something, it -- it leaves much to be desired. so i'm facing a binary choice here. but because i believe that --

that when there's a second person in the equation, that person should be given greater determination because i believe that not only does life begin at conception but because that life is precious. i believe that if i vote yes, these will be fewer. these heartbeatings will be fewer. i vote no. >> senator mesnac votes no. senator kavanaugh? >> thank you, may i explain my vote? >> yes, sir. >> i'm explaining my vote to my constituents. not that they would be surprised because i've always campaigned as being pro-life. those who have paid attention know that i'm pro-life.

and i'm not pro-life as some may think because i want to oppress women and take away their rights. interestingly i'm not pro-life because i'm a roman catholic although it's convenient to have that position align with your church. i'm pro-life because in my teenage years, i saw pictures of developing fetuses. and it's quite obvious that they're little people. there's no way you can change that view if you look especially as the months go by. so to me, they're human beings. and to me abortion is killing them. so judge me on my belief that they are a living human beings. but if you want to misjudge me, please misjudge me and call me somebody who wants to oppress women because i much rather be thought of as a male cove nest

than a baby killer because the latter is worse. with that i vote no. >> senator kavanaugh votes no. >> senator birch. >> mr. president, with my shorted microphone i once again rise to explain my vote. >> proceed. >> we heard a lot of disinformation in this room today. i can rephrase. first, i want to explain that the graphic discorruptions of abortion do not bear any resemblance to the vast majority of abortions per formed in this country. >> members in the gallery -- members of the gallery you cannot burst out.

senator burch -- members in the gallery. hold on senator burch. i understand your passion. we have -- when members are speaking on the floor, there is no outbursts in the gallery, please. thank you. senator burch. >> certainly nothing at all like the procedures that i had. we're not talk about what we're voting on here today. this is about the civil war era ban that criminalizes doctors and makes virtually all abortion legal. the ban that the people of arizona overwhelmingly don't want, we're here to repeal a bad law. i don't want us honoring laws about women written during a time when women were forbidden from voting because their voices were considered inferior to men. but since we want to talk about the ballot initiative, the lice being told about the language of

that bill need be addressed. the bill does not allow for abortion on demand through the ninth month of pregnancy. that's categorically false. >> point of order has been called. >> thank you, mr. president, the -- i don't know what district nine. the bill deals with the repeal of the abortion ban. she's actually getting into the weeds on the ballot abortion mean >> i would like to be held to the same standard who has explained their vote. >> if she's speaking to abortion, -- it is germane to the bill. please stick to the topic of abortion. >> thank you. then let me move on. legislation that would be appropriate. legislation that i think the

public would like to support would have a viability clause and any citizens initiative that was reflective from what the citizens have been asking for would have language -- >> point of order has been called. >> same point of order. she's talking about perspective that has not been introduced and not on the board to be voted on today. >> senator burch? >> what i'm saying is actually why i'm voting the way i'm voting. this is the reason why i'm voting this way. i'm elected to stand here and explain my vote. this is why i'm voting the way that i'm voting. it is germane to the bill. we're talk about abortion. it's been a point of order and i'm continuing to talk about abortion which has been ruled jeannine this bill. >> the chair rules that we have had members speak about abortion on both sides. as long as she per tynes

abortion, she is germane. proceed. >> we also have to stop allowing people to suggest that there are abortion providers in this state or country who provide elective abortion on demand for full-term pregnancy. this is false. facts are facts. the majority of people in this state think that the decision of abortion belongs to providers. i respect their religion. i'm not afraid of the abortion that is i had. i do not fear for my soul. they were the right decisions for me. i don't have to follow your religion in this country. and this is not a belief that is consensus even among religious individuals a very large portion of people who believe in abortion identify as christian or catholic. the trend towards legislating religious believes is dangerous and it should make everybody

nervous regardless of their faith. as to the concerns of those who felt that we have not followed process or proceedings here today, we have what should be a very balanced body. we are 16 republicans and 14 democrats. we all introduce bills we all care about represent our constituents and making sure that voice heard in this body. of the nails made it to the governor's desk, three came from senate democrats. that's not a representative democracy, that's irresponsibility representation and that's what the leadership has chosen if we don't want to be a representative democracy and if we only want to allow some voices in the room -- >> point of order -- >> senator burch -- >> >> so i'm speaking specifically to this bill -- >> talking about procedure. >> the reason why we're right here right now this bill has

been up many times if we wanted to debate, bring it to the committee. you have had the opportunity to bring our bills to committee over and over and over again. and if you refuse to hear our bills when they are popular with the public and when it's what the people of arizona want, then we are going use the tools and resources available us to to make sure that our constituents are being heard. sit their right. we cannot ignore the majority of arizonans and only listen to voice that is lean heavy into party politics because everyone else is going to be silenced in the process here. >> point of order. >> and i -- >> senator burch --