the the softer landslide when in the last general election, you case governing conservative party support collapses and local elections and england gains for the labor policy dentist. however, by its time some of the gaza for how significant of these election results this is inside the

hello and welcome to the program. i'm the parker you. k prime minister richie. so, you know, it hasn't been in the job for long if the recent local elections in england or any indication he wouldn't be in it for much longer either. his government, conservative party has taken a hammering votes as this i think it's in, throws off to the landslide victory that swept it to power on the boys. johnson in 2019 big wins for the opposition labor policy, but a loss of support. among some, most of the photos juzuit styles on israel's war, on gauze unfairly, as a demand and unconditional cease far. so why have people in the england voted the way they did? does it give any indication for what's to come in the general election? what a change of government mean for the u. k. and it's policies we'll get to a guess in a moments. but 1st, this report from culture lopez. how do you, how resoundingly in for prudence, opposition, labor party and local elections across the english. 6 it's taking control

of many local councils, including areas that were previously passed the as of the governing conservative party, the opposition leader says this result reflects the national shit with fed up with your division, with your chaos with you'll find the full t. yes. and i'm sorry, i don't care which political part to use simple. if you leave your country and i was state the what you found it 14 years later, you to don't deserve to pay the job. but for i but love golf. it's the contrast from the 2019 parliamentary elections. when conservatives won a huge majority in parliament, the cure 5 years later, the results are notably different, and a wake up call for prime minister vichy soon. ok, and his conservative party obviously is disappointing to lose good, hardworking conservative counselors and i'm grateful to them for all the service and local government,

keeping counsel tax low and delivering services. so what local people to deep con, has been julie elected as mat labor scored an important victory in london with its candidate winning the election for 3rd term. the re elected mayor says voters are ready for new leadership and regionally. and in parliament twice sites me the most to share is the challenge of working with a labor government and the message from the selection in london and across the country is this time for where she stood out to go to the general election. conservatives were once seen as a party that's better equipped to manage the economy. but rising inflation and high cost of living is fueling desperation. also ranking high, among some voters in northern england in london, is the war ongoing. what people are shooting bosses who we speak to do you need to see is fine. we meet the ceasefire and we still have an old might from the stuff, but there were deepest,

the mental issue is an old impulse to use of the hall. so what we really need need is a government us can understand. now the political 5 over you will likely intensify before the general election with the labor party hoping to end 40 years of conservative government, the u. k. and the governing party doing what it can to try and make sure that doesn't happen, katia lopez. so then i'll just sarah for inside story the . okay, let's bring it i guess now the role joining us appropriately from the u. k. and sorry, chris wilkins, a form of direct to strategy for the x prime minister to resume in london. peter guy can generally spoke of so an author of democracy for sale and, and less to alice to james, the associate professor of politics at the moment. university of high, well and welcome to all of you. welcome to the show. thank you for your time. oh sorry one. if i can start with you, because i don't know if a lot of takeaways from this latest round of local elections and the results that

we've seen, perhaps the biggest take away is the conservative representational councils has collapse to its lowest in decades. why is that annual, if you a, well, it's a number of things. i mean, 1st one distinguishing local elections, you think you have local issues. so the things being able to get up the roads being main site and those sorts of issues. but it's also about national politics and the cost of living causes where inflation was up to a real 11 percent. people still suffering the consequences of that. and it appears as if no 2 government under conservative control has actually got any ideas on how to resolve it. you keep hearing from the politicians pull the plan is working, but the reality is even of inflation is coming down. the not 20 factor of it being so early. it is still impacting people. people are much you bliss off as a result of the hydration. and they don't see the politicians guys have any ideas

on how to resolve it. so some of it is angry about local politics. oh, to hang up against central government is failing to do a lot of anger, a lot of frustration pizza off to 14 use of conservative rule. what do you think driving this? a power hungry for change? and i think it's out of the site as a collection of factors really about 17 years of conservative control of conservative roads. i think we've had high inflation and 0 growth in the u. k. for the last 3 years, there's been a succession of scandals involving the conservative party starting with the cobra contracts. but it's kind of, it's blending. we don't just this week we had a bi election on, on the service. it doesn't cover the rest of the elections in black, 2 sizes, or decisions, or that'd be at this time down after another cover uh, expos, a advice him, allegedly acting as a, as a, a from for, for the gambling industry. and i'm, that's not on, that's not the, unfortunately, usually has been a succession of scandals as well. and from the mentally the conservatives,

a coalition, the election coordination of iris jones and put together in 2019 of socially conservative li vultures. and particularly any labor has a full many labor house seats alongside the traditional small as the conservative southern english, conservative holders that was, was delivered there $21919.00 majority. and that's fracturing all over the place. it's fracturing in the former conservative states, but it's also fracturing decided he's the mainland for the liberal democrats have been doing well and so at the marines. chris, how much can we pin these results on the car and leadership of the conservative party on prime is to richie so not himself. and how much should we pin on the collective failure of the conservative party over its many is in power in the the likes of the leadership under theresa may somebody who you worked with closely list, trustful, to mentioned boss johnson. of course you worked, as i mentioned that closely with teresa may have prime minister who repeatedly failed to get breaks it down. whose fault is this is

a little i'm so chip because if the problem is, if those 14 years now so. so the thing is in the government at any government, stuff's going to bitch target. and so i think probably be the lead to have to share some of the money. mostly i was in down the street. i mean, did it after that, but was it referendum and never a number of years of trying to get that result and the policies shredded into a bit of civil war. and then, or with drugs that have his issues after code wage this trust is being mentioned, have many budget which, uh, what started the economy and put it in place and up. and so everybody takes the share, the things the best. but i do think the kind of in finance through, if you see nothing isn't ministration i li options when they came in to power to draw a line new shows that they were different and that they did have an alternative plan . this was effectively a new administration having used. ready the previous one on the list trust and just

as a change of action of the country. and i think the results that we've seen the, the past couple of days and the look for elections in that column actually by election was in the matter of elections or level 11 will actually, and one of them i wouldn't buy insurance policy. i think a lot of those video and he thought mental visited ministration anastasia successively to direction for the country. and people who don't have a sense that what she see nothing he's but much know where they want to go. so yes, we have the painter for this trust you as me is before that. but how do you come in and say, actually i have a case that's the direction i, the ongoing is most trustworthy. i think there was no chance these have been gauge . people with him, but he hasn't done that. it's always he got to see these is ultimately a privacy come. ready sure, what's happening here now as much as the whole thing is go, oh, so do you agree, is this a of these results a reflection off research? so you're not, inability to break with the post i think is what she said. i couldn't,

he wasn't going to be trained 5 minutes stuff. i basically promised to change things be different. there'd be more openness that be more ethical behavior if you like. what we've seen is a lot go back and it has been more of the side. so many of the issues from the junction is where the allegations of corruption and there was inappropriate behavior for conservative at these, which the conservative party tried to cover up to some extent. that sort of thing has carried on where there's been defense. so he can defend civil folded conservative robin trying to be for the stop start a fresh as, as i was hit by christmas, a huge opportunity for which you select. and basically i have to take it to the i wonder if we can turn our attention to the opposition labor party and what is driving support towards the labor party. let of course by case study, how is he managed to capitalize on this, this in sean, but with the conservative what it's interesting. so what you've got with the labor party isn't something is the,

what is the 2 parties system. and the only thing that you know there is, there are some other smaller parties, but the nature of a jew opposite of a 2 parking system is that when the fortunes of one of the big parties go down to fortunes, a dinner party goes up like a cecil and so there was an element of the labor party is processing and then care cyber from, from not being the conservative party. and that's a very important thing. you can understand that, but in a 2 party system where there's a sense in which of your voting for one of the 2 big partners they will be to government labors, been able to position themselves as, as the party of, of governments and wasting really enough spend very much time with strategy. i think we, when you're looking at how labor day they are, they picked up a lot of towns, the seats that picked up uh over a 100 nation council seats. they won a number of my old contests. they did well. they did not as what they didn't do as well as so might have expected looking at opinion polls, but the election result collections are easy to my funds and national elections. but one thing i think they probably did do what was expectation management with these elections. you know, they want, they may or will contest in these midlands. there they back, the incumbent,

the conservative on the straight. who to spice? the crisis on soon i was actually wide expected to win on in the complex, even though labor of a 20 point leads and the polls winning that felt like a really big moment for labor product in for care. stormer, there is still also some challenges within these results. the greens have been doing while the democrats been doing well causes destiny, hit the labor volks, in places in the north of england, they lost control. uh did all seats and all the middle, some of the seats and in areas where independence, labor parties, god standards are george galloway's workers trying to break. and he was a very strong stance on gaza and i think they were being criticized for not taking dust. so there's, there is some challenges for labor within these results, but overall they do come out as it is looking like the parents, you've got them. and then the big question is when the next selection comb with the how stopping by joining the rates, how big, how, how are the parts of the government? how big is the labor vote at that point for was the following. also now do you think the labor party of mr trick here because it has to be moved to noted that

well, this is a big shift towards labor. it's not to expect it to be, of course, well on slide one by tiny black back in 1997 then late. but i have a 17 point leader of the conservatives and local elections. this time i understand as a 9 point lead, this time she mentioned the pizza. the labor party is also lots of folks independence. and the green policy is hardly a massive interiors asterix wins was labor or is it? this is true, i think just on a stretch of use being, she would appear to be a single pair of hands. so there's going to be no outrage just policy proposal. and that's moving on the whole time, the budget, but he was leader way back in the mid 19 ninety's. so the idea is job no mistakes, no error, no strip ups. and basically let the concerns about you carry on shooting itself in the thoughts. this has been to be successful. however, as has been pointed out, best buy um page for the biggest around golf course problems. now what is

interesting on there is that the noise is coming from the conservative policy and the policy of both being his friend has the right to defend himself, but that the cold for a cease fire and follow to people are but labor support is that wasn't going to be strong enough, they wanted to be much more strident, and the opposition 12, these ro was doing. i don't think the 1000 population. and i think so much try to be cautious on that. he doesn't want to upset the international allies around the world. so he's been very, very cautious, very, very tactful, and it's upset most of the local people having said all of that come to the general election, the choice is going to be between gustavo, his position on gaza and richey, so you're not getting his position on dollars or full, those of wiring out which way to vote and not respect on i suspect most of them will return to the labor phone even if it's when locked in place. because they may feel the style that may actually be able to do more in relation to gaza and the

suit opportunity based on adjust to adds to what i was just said. the chris and in addition to what we've heard about so labors, perhaps questionable, stands on guns a. there is also the specter of anti semitism that it is home to the labor party for quite some time. now when it clearly case dogma is very wary about going down that road and saying the wrong thing, and then unless and yes is that something the conservatives themselves have being very wary off as well. a weakness, perhaps in the labor policy, the conservative will hope to exploit. so the storm is whole message essentially is all you have changed the policy. this is different. they policy the, he inherited it from jeremy colbin. and at the time the policy was really split. quite severely and jeremy pulled in at the scene to pay with where she was going to . she didn't feel a positively posting, feel safe, but it was being a real,

dividing long in case the made that the thing the actually he you basically expel jeremy who will be and said, look, i'm gonna change to life policy. and this was the test, the actually a jewish communities could feel comfortable with the late party up to the cold. and so when a from 7 happened and everything's happened since it was a real test for him. and he is stuck to that's not want you to open the back. thanks again and has been criticized. but this has been said to look, searches really are working on looking for an opportunity to pin him this week and to under under martin that training that he's changed to like pauses whole. now, to be teaching credits, he is stuck to that line from fiscal point of view because it's so it's technic for him. but he's not without difficulty. i suspect as, depending what happens was he didn't go the coming months. but as the general actually gets closer, he will come on the increasing pressure to change his position. i'm. but the knots

that covers the cost is 48 hours. identifying things like what happened in an old amino spinning and where. but when it's against them, saying that this is searching for the policy and actually you can afford now having proven you've changed the parts you can afford to take a stronger line. but again stage where it was action, so he will come under pressure. and it's a real test of his leadership. let's see. which one he takes, chris, i'm sorry. so i wonder, i wonder following home for the 1st adulthood from chris, the weather delay of apology. when very likely they become the policy of power all . so take a soft, a stance on your own, breaks it. what are your visa? that's the big question. i think there's been some noises and the paper about dave allow me, who's a foreign foreign secretary who was, who was very much i wonder, most of kind of a referral. she's on the breakfast. campaigners both joined a referendum and a half towards to be got him having contacts west european union do invest the

pressure on the not least for the fact that the economic press. it is hard bread and it's not quite obvious a few years in and you've got a labor product is going to inherit a countries and a very weak position economically. and they are going to want to try and change stuff. and the easiest way to change it, frankly, is to is some, is to align britain control search with your opinion, all by the same token, what you're seeing from labor partner from the real x. no. because x rays of collection results is the labor practice doing a good job of bringing lea bowl for as back on board. the parking lot lot of the voters on people is always lead your opinion. but a lot of mine is a concern for parts and 2019 is one. the reason that it's so well, lot of them are actually coming back to labor part. it's really important for labor parties coalition to keep them on board. so politically is quite tricky. and, but by the same token to i think this is going to become more of an issue. it's a, it's an extreme labor doesn't want to talk to this and talk about this like the election. they've been really slow, very strong and say we're not, we're not going to be joined to single america and our country on the to just joined the cost of doing and we're not talking about your of, but once i get into power,

i think it is something is going to become more of an issue for the simple fact simple economics and the challenges the british businesses are having and the impact it's had on british g, d p. m. but it's growth. the pulse breaks it is going on with. i think it's going to force if you've had, if there was only kind of magic bullets vision, one thing neighbor knows a good call that would help the economy. it is, it is a closer relationship with euro i. so following on from that i sounds like breaks it is the elephant in the room that no politician of any color or stripe really wants to talk about considering it was all anybody could talk about in the last election. is it still an issue? is still an issue, but as long as you say this deal if it's in the room, so just thomas friends just being make bread sick? were that's the phrase which he is used appropriately here again and again in the day. and he will possibly look at bringing the u. k. more closely aligned with b u. however, what we've got here because i mentioned sprints the conservative box, they can send it off to you before the school break,

eventually diagnosis. they want to separate from your so in hopes of issues. but maybe you don't particular things are going into the opposite direction because they don't want to be seen to be similar to you. i think it is an opportunity for some a to bring the pipe closer to the europe. can you not possibly introduce our case of the normal way, both of rejoining the european economic area. i haven't got better a might, but wish to be you, making it easier for the people. so that should be also made for example for you pay students to be able to join the rasmus scheme which is a run by you where it's not actually can you policy but say and the part you say no the because that's terrified. but if they say yes to any of the suggestions from the you are right, we made in the table government mental of the well, you wants us to rejoice to you that would be a disaster for the late apology. so that is the way to be able to touch in the room . that's why we're not going to talk about it. but i suspect behind the scenes,

things are being prepared to bring with you k gradually, closer to the you and chris. so any width of being remotely curious about being friends again with brussels, could potentially spell the downfall of the labor party before they've even started . you work for perhaps the most breaks it in lights or british prime ministers. that of course, ended up spelling her down full in the end. how do you think the conservatives will exploit that position as an opposition party? well, yeah i, it is on some of the random invest continues to look over everything in so many ways and it will seen the former because it shows that g sort of background was on the media this morning of the sexual needs is all central. okay. not just about the fact that she is still on uh she wants to uh, take this back in to you. um trying to which there's no evidence, but something she says anyway. um, but also um taking a stage to the um,

the window research project she left sense that having left the you, if in union now wants to start leaving other things such as the international human rights, another treaty, but they train some impinges on the page and shopping t, so i think what you then see is that legal televisions here with the considers policy in opposition. most likely i'm going even further to for breakfast. it sort of wasn't enough actually mean to leave it with these other organizations, international organizations. so that we counted much for ease of one, the refund them in 2016. we can hopefully take back control and make decisions ourselves. and you will have a labor policy that will say no, actually with household a group of nations. we're part of the community of nations. we have to coexist with others and with multiple, actually internationally to get things done. and so they will be a real divide. i think the really interesting. ready when you dig into what. ringback on with her and then the results election results is it from the went to

the decision party chasing a smaller question to people and older demographic and the labor policy or maybe capturing the vote. so the younger people, i'm increasing the people in middle age chris, the risk chris from a week because of the potty, the big political bam. off that we've known for generations could potentially split somebody that i'm doing has been because it's divided into fractions. the traditional sentries, one nation conservatives, and those faced the euro skeptic that pro breaks the libertarians of champion by let's trust, department of revenue. well, 45 days. yes, but there's a, there's a real divide and it says projects is due in percent. she's being a really poor church of a big coalition of different opinions. and perhaps it's in a sense was the moment, but that sort of bit of style. and she opened the the, the split. and so that means that was a possibility of

a cup of formal division that would people such as sort of having to go on the rise the policy because the same way for just to as they but you're not the right to bring in people, not knowledge of a large and people that lead the breaths, it's campaigns and won't conservatives the on the right to politics and writing in the ultimate if you're not the right then you manage to be. ready positive problem, as i say, is the best strategy for me is tracing that as for a group of both just old approaches, it doesn't say anything to young people who are going to be deciding electrons and the pace used to come or talking about younger versus producing the conservatives of being to wedded to headline grabbing policies that were one the deal. for instance, the same failed asylum seekers of migrants to one day. very, very interesting to see that a few days before the selection, the sun, newspaper, conservative leaning splashed across his front page that the 1st failed asylum seeker was now on the way to render it likes. it turned out that he had volunteered

and being paid of the conservative being too distracted by these headline grabbing policies to distract to the focus on the motor issues a design, what's your sense of the us and effectively what's happened politically. and i would agree with the analysis of richard scenic husband created some sort of new vision of themselves. and then it says that in his tenure, right, that's been a big problem for him. just by saying that's what he's trying to do to. there's no evidence of that, but effectively what the conserves are trying to do is on the one hand, you have disturbing peeled off on to the left, on the right. so there's liberal democrats, the centrist, they're losing voters on the wing, but they're also losing voters to reform and other part is on the kind of populace rice. i see example the concerns of don and target because of people i sweat a problem and under pressure from them is try and talk harder and harder to arise. wouldn't policies like crew on the which you this is not a problem and we get a party to listen to them. you'd swear it. if, if britain left the you are paying cards, human rights. and if we just sent everybody's rolanda, the tories are pointing forward, decide 50 percent to be back in power. there's no evidence that from pulling at all

really, there is not an evidence of a huge groundswell. all right wing. 3 right, when goes i would, there was a consequence that those would be the default we've had is a, is a kind of constant stream of policies don't really speak toward repeat what, what do speak to the internal divisions of the conservative party and 14 years on fall and power to conserve is wonder, is, is there going to the powers that they see more preoccupied with themselves and they do with the country. right, well, i'll just tell, let me give you the final would be called about a minute left. i mean, anywhere, walk, seeing this election from outside the u. k. might be thinking that with the results like i like this, the conservative policy is toast. really seemed like is politically a deadline. okay. so why don't like just put the country out of it's misery on cold and election, or is this a mazda strategy of the conservative slaves? the mouse has got to use, they have this plan, which we don't quite sure what it is. it won't work. i think as with i need talk to

you as being empowered wants to clean on as long as possible. so we're not going assertion we did on predicting of january 2025 general election simply because the consensus will and on. so the last possible moment because they are electric, i'm addicted to power, i'm the driver being how be able to have the limits for the lift. the don't know what they're doing wrong and so you didn't get to someone else receiving days at the moment being the that the crowd of wordpress or within the conservative body and smell it right. but most time someone to do touch paper this morning. i'm on various news average across the u. k. i take to it's about the ground work for a civil war within the conservative parties. great to speak to all 3 of you. absolutely. fascinating discussion these again, chris wilkins. how does the james, buddy, thanks for your time and thank you to you for watching. you can see the problem again. any time by visiting our website. i'll just share a don't com for further discussion. go to a facebook page. that's facebook dot com,

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